(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[-20.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[AmonAmarth]WR[3p]BR[4d]DT[2011-11-06]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Time]
;B[pd]BL[1795.343]C[AmonAmarth [4d\]: hello,have a nice game
breakfast [3p\]: Have a great game!
]
;W[dc]WL[1755.11]
;B[qp]BL[1791.652]
;W[cq]WL[1740.834]
;B[oq]BL[1730.785]
;W[qj]WL[1735.33]
;B[ql]BL[1710.298]
;W[pf]WL[1726.688]
(;B[qf]BL[1686.388]
;W[qg]WL[1716.337]
;B[qe]BL[1683.105]
;W[pg]WL[1706.084]C[AmonAmarth [4d\]: ok
breakfast [3p\]: now W is solid
breakfast [3p\]: and B has bad aji
breakfast [3p\]: see you again!
AmonAmarth [4d\]: see u
DrZuber [3k\]: amon resigned ?
]
;B[nc]BL[1630.184]
;W[ci]WL[1662.766]
;B[ip]BL[1496.67]
;W[fp]WL[1633.976]C[pozen [3k\]: what means 3p?
minhpham [3k\]: pro
minhpham [3k\]: 3 dan pro = 3p
Vortex2 [9k\]: dont ya know ?
Vortex2 [9k\]: :ÇD
pozen [3k\]: get it , ty
]
;B[dj]BL[1381.538]
;W[di]WL[1629.442]
;B[fj]BL[1377.879]
;W[ei]WL[1621.692]
;B[fl]BL[1353.679]
;W[jd]WL[1604.73]
;B[cp]BL[1316.659]
;W[dp]WL[1601.63]
;B[co]BL[1313.695]
;W[bq]WL[1580.844]
;B[do]BL[1298.058]
;W[eo]WL[1573.742]
;B[dm]BL[1276.092]C[DrZuber [3k\]: it's hard to say exactly how 3p measures up though, depends on where he's rated, but as a general rule pro is a bit stronger than a dan
]
;W[lc]WL[1554.241]C[eatramen [-\]: he i honorary 3p though
eatramen [-\]: *is
]
;B[gh]BL[1261.46]C[Vortex2 [9k\]: as we see 
Vortex2 [9k\]: he he 
]
;W[de]WL[1533.041]C[Sakae [3d?\]: huh?
Jakobicek3 [-\]: honorary?
Sakae [3d?\]: it's honorary?
DrZuber [3k\]: according to his notes he got his 3 pro in korea
mayflowerx [2d\]: which is strong
]
;B[cc]BL[1196.527]C[DrZuber [3k\]: but he's actually a european player.... 
]
;W[cd]WL[1526.054]
;B[ec]BL[1187.746]
;W[db]WL[1519.273]
;B[ed]BL[1186.438]
;W[dd]WL[1516.986]C[Sakae [3d?\]: yeah, russian... but how does he earn that ranking? tournament?
]
;B[hd]BL[1171.851]
;W[qc]WL[1511.979]C[DrZuber [3k\]: presumably... dunno
]
;B[pc]BL[1164.034]C[Vortex2 [9k\]: good fight starts
]
;W[lf]WL[1489.099]C[Vortex2 [9k\]: lets see who's strong 
DrZuber [3k\]: didn't think the asians handed out many pro ranks to foreigners, so who knows.
Pocari [-\]: the 3p is honorary
]
;B[rg]BL[1110.319]
;W[rh]WL[1484.464]
;B[eb]BL[1107.776]C[Vortex2 [9k\]: whats honorary ?
]
;W[pb]WL[1477.037]
;B[ob]BL[1106.322]C[Sakae [3d?\]: well... I guess he can't really play to get a rank ;o
]
;W[rb]WL[1465.567]C[Pocari [-\]: He got it without playing for it
Maverik [3k\]: he got 1p upon completing go cousre in korea, and later on he was awarded 3p for his contribution in go developement in russia
]
;B[rd]BL[1073.09]
;W[rc]WL[1461.834]C[DrZuber [3k\]: sounds plausible.
Maverik [3k\]: yes, he probably can not play like 3p
]
;B[rf]BL[1050.551]C[Maverik [3k\]: it's a true story, mate ))
]
;W[pa]WL[1450.092]
;B[ne]BL[1048.109]C[DrZuber [3k\]: cite your source...
Vortex2 [9k\]: what about 4d is he strong enough ?
Sakae [3d?\]: though, I'm sure he's strong enough to be 1p ;o
Pocari [-\]: It's common knowledge DrZuber
Maverik [3k\]: seems so ))
]
;W[nf]WL[1432.115]
;B[me]BL[1037.432]
;W[mf]WL[1412.073]
;B[cj]BL[998.26]
;W[kq]WL[1368.619]C[largehc [?\]: maybe I should eat breakfast
]
;B[jo]BL[971.892]
;W[np]WL[1353.464]
;B[op]BL[961.76]
;W[ko]WL[1338.216]
;B[kn]BL[959.265]
;W[lo]WL[1331.453]
;B[ln]BL[955.235]
;W[mn]WL[1288.352]
;B[mm]BL[945.81]
;W[nn]WL[1279.92]C[DrZuber [3k\]: he's got a better bio on his website, just googled him.
DrZuber [3k\]: apparently he got to train with a batch of the up and coming korean pro kids, who were mostly stronger than him. ;P
]
;B[jq]BL[899.203]C[DrZuber [3k\]: that had to be a humbling experience, to have a bunch of kids much younger than him that could easily beat him.
]
;W[kr]WL[1251.924]
;B[nm]BL[881.236]
;W[nq]WL[1240.792]
;B[dq]BL[869.937]
;W[dr]WL[1229.124]
;B[eq]BL[840.054]C[DrZuber [3k\]: still, worth something that the koreans made him a pro, they very rarely do so for outsiders.
]
;W[er]WL[1194.014]C[DrZuber [3k\]: wonder how much korean he learned in the process.
]
;B[fq]BL[762.131]
;W[gq]WL[1190.768]
;B[fr]BL[704.706]C[kahin [4k\]: p6 big
]
;W[gr]WL[1183.582]
;B[ep]BL[703.219]C[DrZuber [3k\]: whites priority right now is to keep G2 alive...
]
;W[fs]WL[1155.077]
;B[dp]BL[698.861]C[DrZuber [3k\]: he can't afford to let that much of the center turn black
]
;W[go]WL[1120.82]
;B[hn]BL[690.84]C[DrZuber [3k\]: now I might agree to P6
DrZuber [3k\]: somehow I doubt it's largest though
]
;W[pn]WL[1078.506]C[DrZuber [3k\]: I could be wrong though
]
;B[om]BL[682.684]
;W[po]WL[1034.06]
;B[ro]BL[609.504]
;W[rn]WL[1021.881]
;B[nr]BL[600.996]
;W[mr]WL[1014.082]
;B[or]BL[587.954]C[DrZuber [3k\]: M7 is tempting...
]
;W[rq]WL[1006.701]
;B[qq]BL[581.454]
;W[so]WL[983.952]
;B[sp]BL[558.509]
;W[hc]WL[947.671]C[DrZuber [3k\]: pretty sure s4 works, but I guess it's an endgame move.
Sakae [3d?\]: s4 r5 
DrZuber [3k\]: ah, good point.
]
;B[ic]BL[494.858]
;W[id]WL[940.369]
;B[hb]BL[492.545]C[chingoo [3d\]: j17 greedy
]
;W[gc]WL[902.604]
;B[gb]BL[460.641]
;W[ib]WL[893.073]
;B[gd]BL[457.012]
;W[jc]WL[883.175]C[DrZuber [3k\]: this doesn't look too greedy now
]
;B[gf]BL[413.783]
;W[ej]WL[861.86]C[DrZuber [3k\]: tengen is somewhat tempting atm...
]
;B[ek]BL[405.122]
;W[fi]WL[852.486]
;B[gi]BL[403.224]
;W[gj]WL[825.247]
;B[fk]BL[346.799]
;W[kj]WL[776.328]C[DrZuber [3k\]: heh, not quite tengen, but close enough.
]
;B[eg]BL[312.166]
;W[dg]WL[742.576]C[mayflowerx [2d\]: suddenly w has alot of space
]
;B[lj]BL[240.37]
;W[ki]WL[730.778]C[DrZuber [3k\]: isn't the top right corner a dead shape ?
]
;B[lk]BL[205.481]
;W[hj]WL[720.824]C[Sakae [3d?\]: only if p19 was filled
]
;B[fc]BL[184.901]C[DrZuber [3k\]: humm...
]
;W[jl]WL[707.772]C[DrZuber [3k\]: it's such a tiny shape anyhow, not like it's super important right now, but it just looked funny
]
;B[rm]BL[131.451]
;W[mb]WL[674.897]
;B[se]BL[95.849]
;W[bj]WL[645.585]
;B[bk]BL[87.872]
;W[bi]WL[638.071]
;B[ir]BL[60.229]
;W[pl]WL[608.827]
;B[pm]BL[49.058]
;W[qn]WL[596.755]
;B[sn]BL[39.378]
;W[qm]WL[593.119]
;B[rl]BL[21.262]
;W[pk]WL[568.436]C[DrZuber [3k\]: N4 is such an ugly shaped group...
]
;B[kl]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jm]WL[519.39]
;B[jn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ms]WL[497.054]
;B[bp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[br]WL[488.027]
;B[mq]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[no]WL[468.433]C[mayflowerx [2d\]: w winning
]
;B[da]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gm]WL[462.16]
;B[gn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[fn]WL[451.389]
;B[fm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ho]WL[436.318]C[chingoo [3d\]: b n3 was wrong
]
;B[io]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hm]WL[429.015]
;B[in]BL[60]OB[5]C[DrZuber [3k\]: I've been worried about shape on that group for a while.... seems to be alive now, not so sure before N3
]
;W[en]WL[409.092]
;B[im]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hl]WL[378.309]C[DrZuber [3k\]: so if n3 was wrong, what move is right ?
breakfast [3p\]: pls add some time
chingoo [3d\]: I will clone
chingoo [3d\]: eng room
chingoo [3d\]: DrZyber?
chingoo [3d\]: Zuber?
GoTour [2k\]: Dr. Cyber?
AmonAmarth [4d\]: thank you
breakfast [3p\]: thx!
])
(;B[nc]
;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[qe]
;B[rc]
;W[oj]C[breakfast [3p\]: better way
breakfast [3p\]: smaller corner, but safe
]))
