(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[2100]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[BadAngel]WR[3p]BR[4d]DT[2012-11-08]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[BadAngel [4d\]: удачи
breakfast [3p\]: удачной игры
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[2088.8]
;W[dd]WL[2057.982]
;B[oq]BL[2080.049]
;W[dp]WL[2024.927]
;B[fq]BL[2075.164]
;W[cn]WL[1972.032]
;B[dr]BL[2031.329]
;W[cq]WL[1950.552]
;B[ip]BL[2013.46]
;W[qm]WL[1913.439]
;B[qk]BL[1970.471]C[K5 [1k\]: r7 interesting
BadAngel [4d\]: )
]
;W[qp]WL[1861.363]
;B[qq]BL[1966.366]
;W[rq]WL[1845.361]
;B[pp]BL[1920.646]C[efesis [7k\]: what means of 3p ? 4d is 4dan whats 3p ?
prolepsis [5k\]: pro
Wagaboo [3k\]: pro
prolepsis [5k\]: 3dan
BadAngel [4d\]: insei game
]
;W[qo]WL[1751.604]C[efesis [7k\]: ı see 3p is better 3d
]
;B[qr]BL[1907.363]C[mk04 [-\]: after 7p you can attend the the pro exam
]
;W[on]WL[1720.758]C[mk04 [-\]: after 7d
]
;B[ok]BL[1880.159]C[hebebubu [19k?\]: 3p= 12 dan 
BadAngel [4d\]: )
K5 [1k\]: K16 too slow?
]
;W[nc]WL[1583.236]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: yes
]
;B[pf]BL[1858.787]
;W[kd]WL[1545.317]
;B[cf]BL[1853.163]
;W[fc]WL[1474.333]
;B[bd]BL[1845.187]C[K5 [1k\]: I'm feeling like a pincer might be good here
Wagaboo [3k\]: no
]
;W[bh]WL[1413.513]C[Twocd [3k\]: c13 joseki?
Wagaboo [3k\]: oh
milupaz: missclick?
BadAngel [4d\]: ?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: c12?
BadAngel [4d\]: I do not know)
]
(;B[ch]BL[1802.124]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]: b12 to low
anicca [2d\]: fight move
]
;W[ci]WL[1387.377]
;B[dh]BL[1783.42]C[K5 [1k\]: b12 an attacking move
]
;W[bg]WL[1378.631]C[BadAngel [4d\]: yes)
]
;B[de]BL[1766.345]C[ix7 [3k?\]: can they read us?
milupaz: yes
ix7 [3k?\]: thx
BadAngel [4d\]: yes
Estryx [4d\]: usually no, but in teaching mode - yes
K5 [1k\]: Shape tells me c16 here
TyTaLuS [9k\]: d11 seems important?
Aklys: why the question mark then?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: well some better player might explain if not
K5 [1k\]: nice to steal black's D11 sente, but corner bigger
TyTaLuS [9k\]: see
DOCTOR [?\]: j17
Aklys: yeah...
K5 [1k\]: D11 c10 exchange also fixes the wide gap on left side, so not so bad for w as it may seem
Aklys: then wouldn't b want to invade instead?
K5 [1k\]: Maybe
]
;W[cd]WL[1094.693]
;B[be]BL[1756.879]
;W[bc]WL[1071.3]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]: corner bigger than d11 it seems
]
;B[bb]BL[1738.052]C[Aklys: now this clamp i have issues with
Twocd [3k\]: that doesnt work ...
perigril [4k\]: a17 e16?
Aklys: e16?
]
;W[cc]WL[1015.475]C[K5 [1k\]: If w answers, it worked. Has probe function
]
;B[dm]BL[1722.141]C[Aklys: that still looks too small
TyTaLuS [9k\]: ?
K5 [1k\]: B make yose in sente. W not likely to tenuki because C17 so big
Aklys: so a17 not big yet?
K5 [1k\]: I like D7 timing. If B delays this can go
K5 [1k\]: a17 may be good at move 237
Aklys: j4 looks like it came after d2, but isn't that too wide?
K5 [1k\]: Looks OK to me
Aklys: if you say so
]
;W[di]WL[827.479]
;B[ei]BL[1685.28]C[Turnipsi [1d\]: rhis sure is slow
Aklys: w is thinking alot
herissondu [-\]: J4 only leaves 1 weakness
Aklys: that being?
fakeyou [1d\]: 8d game
TyTaLuS [9k\]: pro usually spend their time in the begining
Turnipsi [1d\]:  teaching game with the teacher being the slow one
TyTaLuS [9k\]: f4 looks good to
]
;W[bl]WL[509.353]C[K5 [1k\]: I would not let b C7 splitting attack
TyTaLuS [9k\]: you are right it seems
TyTaLuS [9k\]: but now b can f5
Turnipsi [1d\]: e10?
Aklys: b8? why?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: so that b cant split the groups
]
;B[fe]BL[1557.966]C[K5 [1k\]: b8 is interesting move. concede points for strength
K5 [1k\]: W is gathering strength, await the best point to strike
Aklys: c7 can't do the job?
UrriS [7k\]: B8 is concrete
herissondu [-\]: b8 is classic bro
K5 [1k\]: c7 is mere 1k level
herissondu [-\]: he helps his weaks groups
TyTaLuS [9k\]: i think is to far from c10 weakspot
]
;W[hd]WL[415.004]C[Aklys: you still haven't told me that weakness to j4 bro
Wagaboo [3k\]: c jsut give more stones free for b
]
;B[ck]BL[1540.394]C[herissondu [-\]: Q18 is big
Turnipsi [1d\]: w playing honte ina teaching game, surely he wouldn't have wait for the best point to strike if he wanted to destroy b
TyTaLuS [9k\]: im amazed at how b keeps sente
K5 [1k\]: F15 feels overconcentrated -compounds D15 misplacement. Compare w's elegant top side
MXHero [4d\]: turnipsi, you say that as if playing honte is an actual choice
herissondu [-\]: he is not playing honte
TyTaLuS [9k\]: dosent honte needs to be sente to?
Aklys: w's top not only elegant but very light and functional
herissondu [-\]: just losing
K5 [1k\]: honte is its own reward
Wagaboo [3k\]: breakfast always spend a lot of time in the fuseki
Wagaboo [3k\]: he is reading a lot
]
;W[bk]WL[300.439]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]:  But honte is not passive or purely defensive play. In fact, if a play carries no aim or threat, it is not honte
]
;B[pb]BL[1532.643]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: then in the middle game you can see the effect
K5 [1k\]: In the middle game we expect a lot of semiais to turn out badly for B
Roon3y [4d\]: bad tenuk imo
Roon3y [4d\]: tenuki*
MXHero [4d\]: tyta, you are right
herissondu [-\]: it will be interesting to see the effects
TyTaLuS [9k\]: h14
TyTaLuS [9k\]: ty
]
;W[eh]WL[251.82]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]: not sure what but ty
TyTaLuS [9k\]: xD
Aklys: guess h14 was too passive
TyTaLuS [9k\]: w is attacking c9?
]
;B[fi]BL[1463.94]C[Aklys: is there a book on how to keep light functional shapes?
Wagaboo [3k\]: b is in trouble now i think :p
TyTaLuS [9k\]: e13 g13?
UrriS [7k\]: w is attacking both right halfs
drmert [10k\]: f13
UrriS [7k\]: left*
O915636236 [2k\]: e13 
Aklys: e13 c13?
drmert [10k\]: yes e13 
TyTaLuS [9k\]: then g13 or somthing
Aklys: g13 then d12 would die
herissondu [-\]: f12
TyTaLuS [9k\]: or b sacrifices c12 an w chaces from the top
UrriS [7k\]: f13 maybe
herissondu [-\]: f13 bad shape
UrriS [7k\]: y
Aklys: f13 is bad
UrriS [7k\]: f12 
herissondu [-\]: f12 is ok :-)
]
;W[eg]WL[73.393]C[Aklys: d14 or c13?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: not sure b can kill e13 in time
TyTaLuS [9k\]: and he cant live there
]
;B[he]BL[1416.425]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]: sacrifice
drmert [10k\]: not yet
Aklys: oh ho!
drmert [10k\]: w will try kill them al
herissondu [-\]: no
TyTaLuS [9k\]: lets see if w takes or chaces first
drmert [10k\]: ok
herissondu [-\]: w will have to connect at C13
TyTaLuS [9k\]: he can play g14 in sente cant he?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: so maybe he j15 first
drmert [10k\]: w can attack e15- e16 or capture c12
herissondu [-\]: g14 is really bad^^
Aklys: needs c12
drmert [10k\]: e15 
herissondu [-\]: he can't attack with a weak goup
K5 [1k\]: B has various shape issues here. g13 might work for w
drmert [10k\]: no e15 is bad 
fakeyou [1d\]: c13 pretty huge
herissondu [-\]: black's leaning attack is good
Aklys: hard to respond to at least
espirt [-\]: d14  perhaps
TyTaLuS [9k\]: weak ggrpu is 1 move grom life
]
;W[cg]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[id]BL[1413.344]C[Aklys: can't d14 cut?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: h17
herissondu [-\]: D14 E16 maybe
UrriS [7k\]: l16 o17 is under attack
]
;W[hc]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[jd]BL[1409.341]C[Aklys: too early to cut though
dihan [1k\]: K18 fight
TyTaLuS [9k\]: l15
herissondu [-\]: L17
herissondu [-\]: L17 J14
dihan [1k\]: no
K5 [1k\]: B Bold but j15 may make trouble
]
;W[ke]WL[60]OW[3]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]: l17 then l 15
drmert [10k\]: w will save two stones on top right
Turnipsi [1d\]: l15
Aklys: wow
TyTaLuS [9k\]: l17 to passive
herissondu [-\]: -_-
]
;B[jf]BL[1388.566]C[dihan [1k\]: k18
herissondu [-\]: L17 L15 J15 bro
drmert [10k\]: k15
]
;W[kf]WL[60]OW[3]C[TyTaLuS [9k\]: j15 cant cut after l15
herissondu [-\]: K15 is strange
]
;B[jg]BL[1376.337]C[herissondu [-\]: J15 allow the G15 atari
TyTaLuS [9k\]: g13?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: you are right
TyTaLuS [9k\]: ty
K5 [1k\]: w is keeping shape, letting B defects accumulate.
]
;W[jb]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[gd]BL[1370.508]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: ouuuf b protect the cut
]
;W[gc]WL[60]OW[3]C[dihan [1k\]: L13
]
;B[no]BL[1349.745]C[herissondu [-\]: this tenuki looks bad
]
;W[mm]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[kg]BL[1340.59]C[K5 [1k\]: If a ko happens, I predict w will win it, with such solid shape
drmert [10k\]: b has  big territory on down
ganesha2 [2k\]: k4 possible?
ganesha2 [2k\]: or smth like
]
;W[kq]WL[60]OW[3]C[ganesha2 [2k\]: ye
]
;B[jq]BL[1320.673]C[K5 [1k\]: this is what w was reading out. All ladders will be bad for B
herissondu [-\]: K3 L5 M6 quizas
dihan [1k\]: J18, J17, K17, L18, L17, M17 and some aji there
TyTaLuS [9k\]: quizas no xD
]
;W[jo]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[kp]BL[1313.531]C[K5 [1k\]: dihan  aji where?
herissondu [-\]: strange
TyTaLuS [9k\]: makinf influence
dihan [1k\]: the cut at M16
TyTaLuS [9k\]: he wants to attack h15
dihan [1k\]: and M18
]
;W[jp]WL[60]OW[3]C[Wagaboo [3k\]: 49 + komi for w is my count
drmert [10k\]: too early to count
dihan [1k\]: or direct M18 and then n18 then m16 ,the 3 stones are cuted
K5 [1k\]: dihan, that's if the sequence is played, W can easily vary or tenuki, since both sides alive
Wagaboo [3k\]: 4 for b
Wagaboo [3k\]: 42
K5 [1k\]: w masterplan involves eating F11?
Wagaboo [3k\]: i think w is ahead
]
;B[ko]BL[1239.636]C[drmert [10k\]: it is possible K5
herissondu [-\]: did you count?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: a side effect from attacking h15 i guess
]
;W[iq]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[jr]BL[1235.086]C[dihan [1k\]: L5 is a local good step but  some profi player dont like it
]
;W[kn]WL[60]OW[3]C[K5 [1k\]: n5 played just before l4 maybe to activate it due to working as ladder block
drmert [10k\]: no no, master plan is capture c9
herissondu [-\]: xD
]
;B[jn]BL[1216.782]C[K5 [1k\]: c9=d7=f11=toast?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: b needs the influence
]
;W[io]WL[60]OW[3]C[herissondu [-\]: why?
dihan [1k\]: over
dihan [1k\]: L2 over
Wagaboo [3k\]: hicho good for w ...
dihan [1k\]: H4 L2
]
;B[hp]BL[1166.106]C[dihan [1k\]: ladder....
Wagaboo [3k\]: good for w no ?
drmert [10k\]: if he tries saving l2 its too expensive
Wagaboo [3k\]: well a lot of ladders are involved
dihan [1k\]: ladder good for black
]
;W[ho]WL[60]OW[3]C[drmert [10k\]: b can get infulience while w trying this
dihan [1k\]: F3 will be cuted
dihan [1k\]: the strongest step is G5
]
;B[go]BL[1098.281]C[Kamyk [5d\]: Do you know that players see your comments ?
dihan [1k\]: J7
drmert [10k\]: yes we know
dihan [1k\]: ah ,sorry
]
;W[jm]WL[60]OW[3]C[Arhiman [3d\]: also, it's "cut", not "cuted"
Universe [1d\]: b gain more
]
;B[ln]BL[1083.447]C[Twocd [3k\]: I don't think the 4d is worried about what kyu players are saying
dihan [1k\]: yes
]
;W[in]WL[60]OW[3]C[dihan [1k\]: that is what i mean ^^
ganesha2 [2k\]: unless kyu player is 4d wife or gf
Wagaboo [3k\]: my tailor is rich....
dihan [1k\]: I am a man 
]
;B[hq]BL[1045.729]C[ganesha2 [2k\]: you mean you are his boyfriend?
Turnipsi [1d\]: b seems succesful?
]
;W[lm]WL[60]OW[3]C[dihan [1k\]: they are the men hahahah 
dihan [1k\]: no
dihan [1k\]: omg
]
;B[mo]BL[1029.444]C[dihan [1k\]: R11 comes
herissondu [-\]: R11 is dead
ganesha2 [2k\]: i didn't say about you, strange that you reacted
dihan [1k\]: sorry, i am only a 1kyu haha 
]
;W[gf]WL[60]OW[3]C[K5 [1k\]: B kept side, W got central power + sente.
Universe [1d\]: g12
Arhiman [3d\]: r11 dies ? really ?
K5 [1k\]: I reckon g14 to expose B shape issues
dihan [1k\]: if i play ,i will play R11
ganesha2 [2k\]: its interessting to see how right side will be reduced
Turnipsi [1d\]: could n5 be at n6 for sente maybe? 
dihan [1k\]: or my moyo is unuseful
]
;B[ge]BL[993.831]C[Turnipsi [1d\]: o6
dihan [1k\]: Q8 sente
]
;W[qi]WL[60]OW[3]C[dihan [1k\]: oh
herissondu [-\]: :-)
Wagaboo [3k\]: r11 is dead rly .? :D
dihan [1k\]: R11 will die ,someon says that
Wagaboo [3k\]: lets see
dihan [1k\]: cant be die 
]
;B[kl]BL[971.072]C[dihan [1k\]: cant die 
dihan [1k\]: R11 is an attack point
Wagaboo [3k\]: dihan you should reapeat : my tailor is rich but my english is poor
Arhiman [3d\]: I wouldn't be so radical
]
;W[mn]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[lo]BL[969.167]
;W[km]WL[60]OW[3]C[Arhiman [3d\]: but with h15 being weak...
]
;B[pj]BL[953.66]C[fakeyou [1d\]: q12 huge
dihan [1k\]: my english is bad too
fakeyou [1d\]: wow
dihan [1k\]: p12
]
;W[qg]WL[60]OW[3]C[julbla [11k\]: Oo
ganesha2 [2k\]: is it really proper move Q10?
]
;B[qf]BL[939.916]
;W[oh]WL[60]OW[3]C[K5 [1k\]: I think w will offer B a chance to kill r11 aji in gote, in return for some central power with which he can kill enough of B's central stones to win
roguehalo [7k\]: b fault lines being revealed
]
;B[kc]BL[912.234]
;W[lc]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[om]BL[887.962]C[K5 [1k\]: Hmmm, maybe just simpler to eat P9 directly
Universe [1d\]: b playing good
]
;W[nn]WL[60]OW[3]C[BadAngel [4d\]: help)
ganesha2 [2k\]: but Q10 seems like a mistake imho
K5 [1k\]: How to help BadAngel?
ganesha2 [2k\]: why not p11?
herissondu [-\]: Q10 is ok bro
Universe [1d\]: the L8 stone will save him
dihan [1k\]: p11,p13
BadAngel [4d\]: group should eat
herissondu [-\]: P11 R9
Arhiman [3d\]: I'll save you ! Tree powers activated...
K5 [1k\]: I would try something like O11 to pressure p12, maybe try a connection with central stones
]
;B[ni]BL[786.347]C[goren2 [3k\]: b has to kill r13
ganesha2 [2k\]: i mean p11 instead of q10
]
;W[nh]WL[60]OW[3]C[BadAngel [4d\]: +
K5 [1k\]: Only problem is, w has such impressive shape everywhere, so few defects
]
;B[mg]BL[757.833]C[goren2 [3k\]: n14 or n13?
Arhiman [3d\]: what now ?
roguehalo [7k\]: push on
ganesha2 [2k\]: n12
drmert [10k\]: n12
]
;W[mh]WL[60]OW[3]C[Universe [1d\]: has to
]
;B[lh]BL[747.733]C[K5 [1k\]: S12 looks like vital point for eyemaking, due to symmettry
herissondu [-\]: sacrifice?
drmert [10k\]: no
]
;W[mi]WL[60]OW[3]C[ganesha2 [2k\]: impssible to kill it
]
;B[mk]BL[744.603]C[Universe [1d\]: the hunter becomes the hunted
drmert [10k\]: m11
Universe [1d\]: thank god for L8
herissondu [-\]: i don't understand
drmert [10k\]: omg
roguehalo [7k\]: m10?
drmert [10k\]: that is going to hard fight
]
;W[lk]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ll]BL[727.769]C[Universe [1d\]: L8 my favorite stone on whole board
Universe [1d\]: useless becomes useful
Arhiman [3d\]: now it's got a friend
Universe [1d\]: :)
Universe [1d\]: lol
]
;W[ml]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[mj]BL[724.937]C[Teofrostus [2k\]: if you look back at when l8 was played it almost looks like this was completely in b's plan
Universe [1d\]: get the abacus out lets see who will win liberty game
herissondu [-\]: maybe R11 will die :-)
drmert [10k\]: its too hard
K5 [1k\]: r11 has s10+s12 for eyemaking
Arhiman [3d\]: m11
]
;W[li]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[lj]BL[721.044]
;W[kh]WL[60]OW[3]C[roguehalo [7k\]: switching attack to top left
drmert [10k\]: k12
Universe [1d\]: white may kill a lot of groups now
Universe [1d\]: yikes
]
;B[lg]BL[697.353]C[herissondu [-\]: s10 and s12 aren't enough
dihan [1k\]: L10 then K10
Twocd [3k\]: game over
]
;W[kj]WL[60]OW[3]C[K5 [1k\]: l10?
]
;B[kk]BL[694.807]
;W[jj]WL[60]OW[3]C[Universe [1d\]: i think black has died onside
]
;B[rm]BL[691.785]C[dihan [1k\]: L2
TyTaLuS [9k\]: he has a lot of room tho
Wagaboo [3k\]: i read b dead
dihan [1k\]: L2 makes P5 sente
]
;W[rl]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ql]BL[688.005]
;W[rn]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[pm]BL[684.763]
;W[sm]WL[60]OW[3]C[Ulath [-\]: I read b alive on the right
Turnipsi [1d\]: can't afford to die here
Ulath [-\]: just p11 ?
herissondu [-\]: alive
]
;B[nl]BL[672.498]
;W[oo]WL[60]OW[3]C[Universe [1d\]: Wow
Universe [1d\]: impressive
]
;B[np]BL[667.105]
;W[oi]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[oj]BL[659.661]C[dihan [1k\]: H12
]
;W[nj]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[pl]BL[656.417]C[dihan [1k\]: no
herissondu [-\]: w is connected now
Arhiman [3d\]: w won
ganesha2 [2k\]: may be g11?
]
;W[jh]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[lb]BL[630.44]C[herissondu [-\]: M18 is fun
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[3]C[breakfast [3p\]: спасибо!
dihan [1k\]: fun??
BadAngel [4d\]: спасибо
TyTaLuS [9k\]: que paso?
TyTaLuS [9k\]: jakja
BadAngel [4d\]: w +
dihan [1k\]: L18, N17
ganesha2 [2k\]: comment q10 move plz
anicca [2d\]: q10 normal
])
(;B[cc]
;W[dc]
;B[cg]C[breakfast [3p\]: правильно так
dihan [1k\]: protect B15
breakfast [3p\]: в партии - много Черные потеряли здесь
breakfast [3p\]: учи джосеки, Дима :)
Wagaboo [3k\]: corner is bery big
BadAngel [4d\]: )
breakfast [3p\]: до встречи!
BadAngel [4d\]: спс
Ulath [-\]: any russian translator here ? ;)
herissondu [-\]: this sequence is joseki
DudeAbides [1k\]: I can translate
espirt [-\]: use google .
dihan [1k\]: no, that is not russian hahaha 
drmert [10k\]: macedonian
Ulath [-\]: thank you if you can trnaslate some key points DudeAbides
Wagaboo [3k\]: bcp de merci
K5 [1k\]: Abides, you're a Dude
Ulath [-\]: google usually gets everything wrong and it's slow to use
ganesha2 [2k\]: he said: black lost  a lot of points there
Wagaboo [3k\]: during the game black has played alot in the top left 
KCN [1k\]: should be played in Idiots Room
ganesha2 [2k\]: and advised to study joseki
DudeAbides [1k\]:  many Black lost here breakfast [3p\]: teach joseki Dima :)
Ulath [-\]: hehe ok, thx :)
ganesha2 [2k\]: not teach
ganesha2 [2k\]: study
DudeAbides [1k\]: cooly, google translate does suck
ganesha2 [2k\]: your translation is like you study russian 1 year
Ulath [-\]: 'told you... 
Ulath [-\]: (@DudeAbides)
DudeAbides [1k\]: ^_^
Ulath [-\]: both players left, I guess we won't see more comments here
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