(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[BadAngel]WR[3p]BR[4d]DT[2013-02-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1797.519]C[BadAngel [4d\]: удачи
breakfast [3p\]: удачи
]
;W[dd]WL[1785.272]
;B[pp]BL[1781.074]
;W[dq]WL[1761.928]
;B[co]BL[1771.737]
;W[cj]WL[1713.2]
;B[fp]BL[1726.375]
;W[ep]WL[1649.779]
;B[eo]BL[1720.993]
;W[fq]WL[1631.926]
;B[dp]BL[1716.447]
;W[eq]WL[1625.13]
;B[cq]BL[1715.263]
;W[cr]WL[1603.938]
;B[bq]BL[1710.754]C[tquy [12k\]: h4?
]
;W[gp]WL[1487.036]
;B[fo]BL[1708.135]
;W[iq]WL[1432.04]
;B[fc]BL[1701.57]
;W[df]WL[1418.678]
;B[jd]BL[1688.654]
;W[dn]WL[1390.889]
;B[do]BL[1684.408]
;W[qf]WL[1374.065]
;B[qh]BL[1667.642]C[grmaster [2k\]: bad angel looks really bad ^^
mishik [4k\]: it's a T game. They can see our comments...
]
;W[qc]WL[1307.69]
;B[pc]BL[1664.749]
;W[qd]WL[1305.524]C[BadAngel [4d\]: ^_^
grmaster [2k\]: it is not my fault I think :-)
]
;B[pe]BL[1648.73]C[grmaster [2k\]: I was talking about picture by the way
mishik [4k\]: I root for amateurs! :)
]
;W[rf]WL[1258.61]
;B[og]BL[1633.938]C[behta [1d\]: white wa,ts the 4 corners
]
;W[hc]WL[1143.71]C[K5 [1d?\]: I'm split between o3 as a kakari/extension and something like k14 on the top side to reduce B's potential. I think I go with o3
kukulele [3k\]: o13 is nice, mo
]
;B[hd]BL[1627.37]
;W[ic]WL[1137.294]
;B[jc]BL[1608.148]C[kukulele [3k\]: p13, sorry
mishik [4k\]: isn't p13 joseki? :)
K5 [1d?\]: P13 standard
]
;W[id]WL[1098.729]C[wolokom [5k\]: now c 17
]
;B[ie]BL[1604.537]
;W[gd]WL[1075.189]
;B[he]BL[1601.376]
;W[gc]WL[1073.704]
;B[je]BL[1596.66]C[levye [6k\]: was it 3 handi ?
kukulele [3k\]: no
Speed [1k\]: 0 handi. . .
levye [6k\]: yea just counted
levye [6k\]: h
levye [6k\]: thx
mishik [4k\]: options->rules ;)
K5 [1d?\]: K15 solid but feels too slow
levye [6k\]: thx again :)
]
;W[nq]WL[902.59]C[K5 [1d?\]: Even if c17 is still a defect, feel like a successful action for w on the top - B's center influence may be hard to put to use
isumi43 [5k\]: looks like opening very good for w
mishik [4k\]: notice how shapes on top and bottom left match :)
edo2 [4k\]: no handi ?
edo2 [4k\]: :/
DustyVeins [7k\]: its a lesson
K5 [1d?\]: B is losing his time advantage...
DiLollipop [5k\]: B is using his time advantage
wampleek [?\]: breakfast usually assumes -20 komi
]
;B[np]BL[1191.627]
;W[mp]WL[831.839]
;B[mq]BL[1187.493]C[sarcastic [4d\]: black is creating complication to the 3p
s84ua [4k\]: бьет по слабостям
wampleek [?\]: its a good idea... usually p's are weak at fighting
Architect [3k\]: lol
]
;W[or]WL[759.626]C[TyTaLuS [6k\]: ?
levye [6k\]: its was simple without n3
]
;B[pq]BL[1183.37]C[DiLollipop [5k\]: "operation confuse 3p" is a go
mishik [4k\]: mission impossible
levye [6k\]: yet there is 9p
mishik [4k\]: don't think that 9p can really confuse 3p... just a couple of stones diff
temudjin [2k\]: shishogood for white
wampleek [?\]: m3 good enough?
tquy [12k\]: i would n2 because p4 available after
herissondu [1d\]: i like this joseki for b here
s84ua [4k\]: o5 
s84ua [4k\]: пока не поздно
herissondu [1d\]: get strong influence and w's overconcentrated 
wampleek [?\]: i tend to agree heris
wampleek [?\]: m3 does seem overconcentrated
herissondu [1d\]: yes
]
;W[no]WL[414.22]
;B[op]BL[1180.08]C[herissondu [1d\]: O.o
s84ua [4k\]: я же говорил!
wampleek [?\]: w fights instead
]
;W[lq]WL[393.993]
;B[mr]BL[1175.227]
;W[mo]WL[385.459]
;B[lr]BL[1170.261]C[wampleek [?\]: oh
herissondu [1d\]: i never saw P4 before
]
;W[kq]WL[380.5]
;B[nr]BL[1167.199]C[wampleek [?\]: funny trade
Ch3fCGr33n [11k\]: best for white with influence though
JarJar [-\]: result is best for B but W has the sente
herissondu [1d\]: black gets more imo
K5 [1d?\]: B point w power+sente
pok [1k\]: f16 big now
Ch3fCGr33n [11k\]: if w had settled for lower side, b would have a lot to work with for right and center progress
levye [6k\]: agreed
xaphoon [2k\]: f16 move there to get rid of that aji? can b still c17 then?
]
;W[fd]WL[256.968]C[herissondu [1d\]: i don't know how w can use this strenght
]
;B[cl]BL[1153.33]C[LaMomia [5k?\]: just having the strenght is good enough
s84ua [4k\]: готовится к с12
herissondu [1d\]: wrong
herissondu [1d\]: useless strenght is useless
LaMomia [5k?\]: strenght is never useless
pupukani [1d\]: is this useless strength?
herissondu [1d\]: we'll see
wampleek [?\]: center facing str is hardly useless
levye [6k\]: if its useless why call it strength
LaMomia [5k?\]: right
JarJar [-\]: useless is call "potential" in go ^^
levye [6k\]: must be smtelse
levye [6k\]: ok
K5 [1d?\]: If C17 is still there, w goofed... so must be C17 is gone.
xaphoon [2k\]: sequence after c17? does anybody know?
herissondu [1d\]: strenght in front of strenght is useless
tquy [12k\]: n13 reduce time? w has influence at bottom
temudjin [2k\]: you have to break fast
herissondu [1d\]: because nothing to attack
wampleek [?\]: c17 is hard to kill... i think it is ko
]
;W[bl]WL[70.38]C[wampleek [?\]: but could be wrong
herissondu [1d\]: and a strenght in front of a living group is useless too
levye [6k\]: i wonder what will happen in R line
]
;B[bk]BL[1122.775]C[xaphoon [2k\]: c17 d17 c16 c15 b15 b14 d18 e18 b18 d19 c19 ?
]
;W[ck]WL[61.669]C[sarcastic [4d\]: best is q12 for w in r line
]
;B[bm]BL[1110.947]C[K5 [1d?\]:  C17 b16?
herissondu [1d\]: i don't want to read your sequence xaphoon
LaMomia [5k?\]: i never played the saxaphoon
NateC [3d\]: xaphoon, I think that sequence lets b off easy
levye [6k\]: easy to click hard to read
NateC [3d\]: My gut says c17 b15
dan2dan [3d\]: breakfast's playstyle...
mishik [4k\]: Is anyone here from insei league?
mishik [4k\]: well... except for Alexander :)
]
;W[bj]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[al]BL[1101.397]
;W[pn]WL[60]OW[5]C[s84ua [4k\]: ш фь
s84ua [4k\]: i am
mishik [4k\]: :)
]
;B[qn]BL[1085.31]C[K5 [1d?\]: B horribly overconcentrated and w has sente
dan2dan [3d\]: a battle of territory vs territory.. so lame
]
;W[qo]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[po]BL[1077.627]C[isumi43 [5k\]: b already lost :(
]
;W[qm]WL[60]OW[4]C[LaMomia [5k?\]: B lost when he clicked OK
]
;B[rn]BL[1060.144]C[LaMomia [5k?\]: but this is for learning
isumi43 [5k\]: b is not a bad player
grmaster [2k\]: B can crash W still
isumi43 [5k\]: I understand this is l;earnin g
grmaster [2k\]: alot of aji
dan2dan [3d\]: how does w kill b c17? i am not familiar with this tsumego
isumi43 [5k\]: you say aji?
LaMomia [5k?\]: of course B is 4dan, and Breakfast is pro and plays nice for teaching
isumi43 [5k\]: this is y I am still 5k
]
;W[pm]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[rm]BL[1054.347]C[mgelo [2k?\]: c17 c16 b17 d18?
NateC [3d\]: Aji is potential weakness
isumi43 [5k\]: Alex too good for b
]
;W[rl]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[ro]BL[1052.497]C[Architect [3k\]: please... just watch
isumi43 [5k\]: maybe handi was proper in this game
isumi43 [5k\]: OK-sorry
Architect [3k\]: we understand u are in love for alexander
smonds3 [2d\]: No handi, breakfast lectures on how to think in games while playing. So even game is best
isumi43 [5k\]: not at all
Architect [3k\]: ask his tel after the game
NateC [3d\]: mgelo, b17 in your sequence is a strange move
xaphoon [2k\]: omg why so offensive?
]
;W[qk]WL[60]OW[4]C[zum [?\]: game looks even already
]
;B[oi]BL[1046.788]C[xaphoon [2k\]: already? this was without handi...
xaphoon [2k\]: b is doing a good job imho
zum [?\]: b way too passive
mgelo [2k?\]: yes i dont have a decent answer in the c17 c16 d17 variation
isumi43 [5k\]: b has sure points-cash in the bank
Architect [3k\]: c17 doesnt work
isumi43 [5k\]: on the other hand I guess w has a lot of influence
zum [?\]: c17 b16
mgelo [2k?\]: it's a common teaching style: W  just playign steady moves not trying to blow the opponent away
isumi43 [5k\]: I see
zum [?\]: w does not need to spill b's blood to win
zum [?\]: but b cant win without fight
levye [6k\]: blowing can be a way of learning i think
DiLollipop [5k\]: but it's what the crowd wants...
LaMomia [5k?\]: white is showing how to end every exchange with no or minimum Aji
]
;W[lj]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[go]BL[1034.593]C[Architect [3k\]: nice move...
Architect [3k\]: m10 is reduction and moyo maker
LaMomia [5k?\]: thosre the kind of moves i dont understand
zum [?\]: if b doesnt fight h will simply lose by a small margin
badsuji [8k\]: Architect.  Please.... just watch the game.
zum [?\]: if b fights then b gets crushed
okiol [1k\]: g5 looks weird? won't w just h5?
]
;W[lh]WL[60]OW[2]C[mgelo [2k?\]: it's a free window, anyone can say anything
]
;B[gq]BL[1023.022]C[rs220675 [1k\]: can c17 live at all?
LaMomia [5k?\]: Architect, thanks for the imput, please comment all you want
TyTaLuS [6k\]: it has merit to lose by a small margin againmst a p
badsuji [8k\]: mgelo  I am being ironic.  I am quoting his comment earlier when someone was kibbitzing.
zum [?\]: Ty: zero merit to lose with 100% certainty
]
;W[hp]WL[60]OW[2]C[badsuji [8k\]: Also @TyTaLus scroll and read Architect's comment shushing another kibbitzer.
pupukani [1d\]: f2
okiol [1k\]: yeah if you think losing small is good you misunderstood this game in several levels
mgelo [2k?\]: maybe it's a confidence builder "oh I only dropped 5 pts to Dinerstein"
]
;B[fr]BL[985.11]C[LaMomia [5k?\]: nice
]
;W[gr]WL[60]OW[2]C[zum [?\]: bah no surprise
]
;B[dr]BL[982.415]
;W[hq]WL[60]OW[2]C[conHEO [2d\]: so much time for b
]
;B[er]BL[981.237]C[levye [6k\]: m14 ?
zum [?\]: j6
LaMomia [5k?\]: m14 
grmaster [2k\]: m14 
grmaster [2k\]: m14 huge
mgelo [2k?\]: i think w is reviewing this game in the Insei room
keysersoze [?\]: r18 
grmaster [2k\]: yeah
]
;W[nh]WL[60]OW[2]C[LaMomia [5k?\]: oh
grmaster [2k\]: its not breakfast playing
okiol [1k\]: aiming at o15 or smth?
s84ua [4k\]: я его там не вижу
zum [?\]: w  preparing long face
Gay [4d\]: black doing good
grmaster [2k\]: its breakfast and his inseis haha
qide123 [8k\]: g3
]
;B[oh]BL[921.439]
;W[mf]WL[60]OW[2]C[zum [?\]: log face
]
;B[md]BL[917.357]C[smonds3 [2d\]: badangel is one of the inseis too
zum [?\]: short face...
LaMomia [5k?\]: dog face
dan2dan [3d\]: you can be an insei as just 4d?
mgelo [2k?\]: big reduction
LaMomia [5k?\]: or "sake bottle" shape
zum [?\]: b top zmall
Architect [3k\]: giant
temudjin [2k\]: game is so open ... make point between 2 closed and alive territories looks too early
s84ua [4k\]: e11 
Architect [3k\]: *reduction..
]
;W[pb]WL[60]OW[2]C[mgelo [2k?\]: you can be insei at 4k, just pay $$
okiol [1k\]: now o15?
]
;B[ob]BL[915.052]C[zum [?\]: w reduces everything in sente
goren2 [2k\]: o10 big for w
]
;W[qb]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[cc]BL[901.117]C[smonds3 [2d\]: o10 overconcentrated
mgelo [2k?\]: there!
grmaster [2k\]: finally
LaMomia [5k?\]: o10 will make the "Apollo shape"
dan2dan [3d\]: BREAKFAST
dan2dan [3d\]: SHOW ME THE TSUMEGO
bsaltman [4k\]: g 12 good
dan2dan [3d\]: "D
okiol [1k\]: i guess this is ko or smth?
dan2dan [3d\]: :D
zum [?\]: b16
okiol [1k\]: oh, this is teaching game, they can see the comments
kukulele [3k\]: why is everything always overconcentrated
Architect [3k\]: lol
mgelo [2k?\]: my detergent is 3x concentrated
]
;W[be]WL[60]OW[1]C[BadAngel [4d\]: LOL
dan2dan [3d\]: b15? i see i see
zum [?\]: things get overconcentated because the stones are too big
LaMomia [5k?\]: my nesquick is 5 times concentrated
pupukani [1d\]: i see... o10 and f14 are now miai :D
]
;B[bd]BL[859.933]C[Architect [3k\]: ko
zum [?\]: does b even bother to kill corner?
zum [?\]: w
levye [6k\]: b ?
smonds3 [2d\]: d18?
]
;W[eb]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[db]BL[855.945]C[mgelo [2k?\]: guess not
zum [?\]: b18
]
;W[bb]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[ce]BL[854.18]C[zum [?\]: still killable
]
;W[bf]WL[60]OW[1]C[LaMomia [5k?\]: deadable
]
;B[ec]BL[842.623]C[mgelo [2k?\]: ok
]
;W[fb]WL[60]OW[1]C[mgelo [2k?\]: i thought w D17
zum [?\]: e15
mgelo [2k?\]: e15 just d15
]
;B[ba]BL[802.855]
;W[ab]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[cd]BL[791.951]C[mgelo [2k?\]: but this is instructive
okiol [1k\]: c14
LaMomia [5k?\]: this shows ho a dead group remains dead
]
;W[cf]WL[60]OW[1]C[zum [?\]: b uberdeaad
LaMomia [5k?\]: b can live if i play white
zum [?\]: sad
]
;B[ad]BL[727.299]C[ghaele [-\]: the game is always playable for b no?
Architect [3k\]: the point is the center...
levye [6k\]: c18 ?
Architect [3k\]: b missing the whole board
mgelo [2k?\]: the center is about even
LaMomia [5k?\]: "there are no points in the center"
okiol [1k\]: is this tenukiable? :o
ghaele [-\]: center is desert
zum [?\]: no tenuki
mgelo [2k?\]: dessert
]
;W[da]WL[60]OW[1]C[mgelo [2k?\]: it comes after the big meal
]
;B[ff]BL[696.348]C[okiol [1k\]: b just created aji for f14 move all along
zum [?\]: b was after f14 all the time...
mgelo [2k?\]: brilliant
]
;W[de]WL[60]OW[1]C[smonds3 [2d\]: too many moves wasted for that to be the point...
smonds3 [2d\]: should just play it first 
]
;B[mi]BL[681.851]C[dan2dan [3d\]: no... b failed invasion, decided can only get f14 as recompense.
dan2dan [3d\]: lol at glorifications
smonds3 [2d\]: right. only helped white's left side
okiol [1k\]: zum, you were just joking too, right?
mgelo [2k?\]: who cares
Architect [3k\]: w + time
]
;W[li]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[nk]BL[675.313]C[Architect [3k\]: b + time..
okiol [1k\]: i think it's interesting that someone can even think that was not a joke, that's why i got confused
mgelo [2k?\]: noone thought that
]
;W[nm]WL[60]OW[1]C[mgelo [2k?\]: set your irony stack value to a very high one
]
;B[dk]BL[639.972]C[okiol [1k\]: you're being ironic now, right?
goren2 [2k\]: h7
LaMomia [5k?\]: im too weak to tell what comment is or not a joke
]
;W[ei]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[in]BL[633.745]C[dan2dan [3d\]: 30kyu kibitzer
]
;W[nb]WL[60]OW[1]C[okiol [1k\]: maybe he needs e11 to make life easy
xaphoon [2k\]: only SE can live at c17 XD
]
;B[oa]BL[621.991]C[okiol [1k\]: wow
okiol [1k\]: that's risky by b
mgelo [2k?\]: aji
Architect [3k\]: n17
zum [?\]: o16
goren2 [2k\]: n17
dan2dan [3d\]: wow
okiol [1k\]: i don't think it will favour him
zuru [6k\]: 017
dan2dan [3d\]: b planned it all along
dan2dan [3d\]: w*
zuru [6k\]: o17
]
;W[nd]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[nc]BL[616.983]
;W[mc]WL[60]OW[1]
;B[oc]BL[615.435]C[mgelo [2k?\]: now B top suffers
goren2 [2k\]: m18
]
;W[ld]WL[60]OW[1]C[ghaele [-\]: b played this because w is slighty ahaed
okiol [1k\]: f14 dead?
BadAngel [4d\]: thx
breakfast [3p\]: thank you
LaMomia [5k?\]: gracias a todos
LaMomia [5k?\]: so this game proves that if ( and only if)  you play all good shape and dont leave Aji you can beat a 4dan without much fighting?
LaMomia [5k?\]: then tell me, why i may lose to 7kyus any time?
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