(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[elligain]PB[Himiko]WR[5k]BR[1k]DT[2011-09-05]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Himiko [1k\]: hi, have a nice game
elligain [5k\]: have a good game
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1766.041]
;W[pp]WL[1790.879]
;B[qn]BL[1757.583]
;W[np]WL[1784.708]C[elligain [5k\]: you are really stronger as me
elligain [5k\]: i do nothing good in the game
Himiko [1k\]: I think you played a bit unreasonably here and there
Himiko [1k\]: may I show you?
elligain [5k\]: ok
]
;B[pj]BL[1746.254]
;W[cd]WL[1781.904]
;B[ed]BL[1738.431]
;W[cf]WL[1779.265]
;B[cp]BL[1691.048]C[Himiko [1k\]: so far, nothing wrong at all with yuor play
]
(;W[ep]WL[1763.141]TR[np]C[Himiko [1k\]: this is nice too
Himiko [1k\]: you put the stone to good use
]
;B[eq]BL[1671.838]C[elligain [5k\]: ys, here i think this is good for me
]
;W[fq]WL[1748.039]
;B[dq]BL[1666.322]
;W[gp]WL[1742.259]
;B[cn]BL[1659.351]
;W[kq]WL[1740.169]TR[ko]C[Himiko [1k\]: this is fine, but you have a weak point where i marked
]
;B[cc]BL[1651]C[elligain [5k\]: i play often this joseki
]
(;W[dc]WL[1735.196]C[elligain [5k\]: i mistake here
Himiko [1k\]: I would question this
]
;B[dd]BL[1645.463]
;W[bc]WL[1733.406]
;B[cb]BL[1642.133]
(;W[bd]WL[1701.661]
;B[bb]BL[1621.189]TR[fc][gc]C[Himiko [1k\]: this looks small but
Himiko [1k\]: it is a very large endgame point, and here it gives me total security while yuo still have to play again
elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: ok
Himiko [1k\]: before you played at A18, the marked places were possible ideas for later
]
;W[ab]WL[1692.972]C[elligain [5k\]: and sente for me too if you dont play it
Himiko [1k\]: this move is aji keshi
]
;B[ec]BL[1531.657]TR[gc][gd]C[elligain [5k\]: aji keshi ?
Himiko [1k\]: it means to lose an option
elligain [5k\]: yes....
Himiko [1k\]: now you forced me to defend them
Himiko [1k\]: which was happy for me
]
;W[nc]WL[1683.303]
(;B[nd]BL[1427.685]TR[nd][pd][pj]C[Himiko [1k\]: this is a nice shape
Himiko [1k\]: and you don't have much scope on the top
Himiko [1k\]: so I don't think my move is bad
]
;W[md]WL[1666.054]C[elligain [5k\]: soo 17 is bad ?
elligain [5k\]: o17
Himiko [1k\]: no
Himiko [1k\]: I think it was a normal move
]
;B[ne]BL[1333.734]
;W[oc]WL[1591.077]
;B[pc]BL[1328.579]
;W[jc]WL[1559.047]
;B[pf]BL[1312.868]TR[ab][ec]C[Himiko [1k\]: now, before the A18 E17 exchange you had a good follow up
Himiko [1k\]: that's normal - black has the first move
elligain [5k\]: so i hve to reduce it, don't i ?
Himiko [1k\]: I am not good at fuseki, but I think the best way is to build first, then decide what to attack
elligain [5k\]: so what should i play here ?
elligain [5k\]: all is gote now
elligain [5k\]: c10
Himiko [1k\]: you can't have sente all the time
]
(;W[ql]WL[1378.482]C[Himiko [1k\]: okay, this is the mistake
elligain [5k\]: q8 instead ?
Himiko [1k\]: I sense you are uncomfortable with the opponent getting territory
Himiko [1k\]: but you will make a leap forward if you concentrate on creating your own
elligain [5k\]: bur your is llarger as mine
]
;B[pl]BL[1244.852]
;W[pm]WL[1365.66]
;B[qm]BL[1235.354]
;W[pk]WL[1362.644]
;B[ol]BL[1230.88]
(;W[ok]WL[1328.908]
;B[qk]BL[1209.307]TR[nd][pd][ne][pf]C[elligain [5k\]: this is very bad for me
Himiko [1k\]: it's difficult to see a good result for white
elligain [5k\]: now you have 2 strgong group
Himiko [1k\]: because black is very thick
elligain [5k\]: yes
]
;W[qj]WL[1324.179]
;B[rl]BL[1196.624]
;W[pi]WL[1256.588]
;B[oj]BL[1191.164]
(;W[oi]WL[1255.182]
;B[nk]BL[1188.1]C[Himiko [1k\]: after this, you will have a world of problems
elligain [5k\]: i agree
Himiko [1k\]: never let the opponent get this shape
Himiko [1k\]: there is a proverb - the turtle back is worth 60 points
Himiko [1k\]: this shape is a "turtle back" and it's really strong
Himiko [1k\]: after this, there is no worry about your moyo because I can always fight extra hard with the support of this shape
]
;W[qh]WL[1254.057]
(;B[rg]BL[882.984]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
Himiko [1k\]: so I am happy to secure points and make you run
]
;W[mi]WL[1223.903]
;B[hc]BL[859.848]
;W[je]WL[1220.415]TR[lc][kd]C[Himiko [1k\]: I am not certain about it,but I think this was a good defence
Himiko [1k\]: I was looking at the marked points, but it's easy for black to end up with bad shape
]
(;B[nh]BL[755.045]
;W[ni]WL[1215.579]
;B[kd]BL[716.501]
(;W[kc]WL[1110.373]C[Himiko [1k\]: now, I could be wrong
elligain [5k\]: i dont want his
Himiko [1k\]: but I am starting to think that it's important to know when to stop attacking
elligain [5k\]: because now i have o11 very weak
elligain [5k\]: and i dont want you make a wall between
Himiko [1k\]: I cannot see a really good way to attack you right now, so it's better to see how it develops before committing
elligain [5k\]: so i dont play k16
elligain [5k\]: stronger as n15, but even n15 is bad for me
Himiko [1k\]: so this was cool defence
]
;B[ch]BL[627.814]C[elligain [5k\]: b13 ?
]
(;W[dg]WL[1044.658]
;B[dj]BL[493.58]
(;W[dk]WL[853.968]C[Himiko [1k\]: again, why not just concentrate on your creating your own area?
]
;B[ck]BL[439.798]
;W[dl]WL[751.228]
;B[cl]BL[430.288]
;W[dn]WL[738.028]
;B[do]BL[380.817]
(;W[eo]WL[687.069]
;B[dm]BL[332.776]
;W[em]WL[679.02]
;B[en]BL[329.811]
;W[fn]WL[676.692]C[Himiko [1k\]: I see, you wanted sente
Himiko [1k\]: nice ide
Himiko [1k\]: idea
]
;B[dn]BL[310.081]
;W[fl]WL[673.356]
(;B[ej]BL[280.156]C[Himiko [1k\]: on the other hand
Himiko [1k\]: the threat to the top left is pretty serious!
]
;W[mm]WL[663.258]
;B[bg]BL[256.815]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
]
(;W[bf]WL[660.798]
;B[fg]BL[252.164]
;W[de]WL[650.946]
;B[ef]BL[230.965]
;W[dh]WL[600.19]C[elligain [5k\]: but you well play it
]
;B[fi]BL[192.638]C[elligain [5k\]: i should go out instead of b14
]
;W[lk]WL[350.905]C[Himiko [1k\]: this was a nice move
Himiko [1k\]: helps your weak group and builds your moyo
elligain [5k\]: yes
]
;B[gm]BL[162.233]
;W[fm]WL[344.9]
;B[hk]BL[120.148]
;W[gj]WL[329.087]C[elligain [5k\]: i didnt see f11
]
;B[gk]BL[108.171]
;W[fk]WL[327.423]
;B[fj]BL[98.955]
;W[hi]WL[318.235]
;B[ii]BL[94.703]
;W[hh]WL[314.594]
;B[ih]BL[91.132]
;W[hg]CR[ml]WL[313.05]TR[lk][mm]C[elligain [5k\]: i will
elligain [5k\]: ok
Himiko [1k\]: the square is the "waist" - it's generally the best point to try to cut
elligain [5k\]: ok
Himiko [1k\]: but this circle is usually not good
]
(;B[ll]BL[40.954]C[elligain [5k\]: i didnt see m8 cut 
Himiko [1k\]: I was quite pleased with my little sequence here
elligain [5k\]: i should have read it
elligain [5k\]: well play
Himiko [1k\]: the reason was to get a ladder blocker
elligain [5k\]: but anyway
Himiko [1k\]: from this game, you can remember the tesuji here
elligain [5k\]: yes
Himiko [1k\]: which is to "cut the knight's waist"
elligain [5k\]: this mean ?
Himiko [1k\]: once you know it, you'll be able to use it and win :-)
elligain [5k\]: ^^
elligain [5k\]: yes
]
;W[ml]WL[307.07]C[elligain [5k\]: i dont have good answer for m8
]
;B[lj]BL[36.744]
;W[mk]WL[274.235]
;B[hj]BL[11.328]
;W[gi]WL[271.088]
;B[ig]BL[7.874]
;W[hf]WL[269.258]
;B[if]BL[4.724]
;W[he]WL[262.065]
;B[ie]BL[1.865]
;W[hd]WL[256.224]
;B[id]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ic]WL[249.907]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ij]WL[247.665]C[Himiko [1k\]: So, three things you can take from this game
Himiko [1k\]: Make yourself secure before attacking
elligain [5k\]: ok
Himiko [1k\]: Create before you decide to destroy
Himiko [1k\]: and the "Knight's waist" tesuji
elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: i thnk you a lot
elligain [5k\]: i will try to do better the next
Himiko [1k\]: thanks for the game! Good luck in your league games
elligain [5k\]: thank
Himiko [1k\]: you will do better, for sure
Himiko [1k\]: bye for now
elligain [5k\]: i hope
elligain [5k\]: bye
]
;B[jj]BL[30]OB[5]C[elligain [5k\]: thanks
Himiko [1k\]: thanks
]
;W[ik]
;B[il]
;W[jk]
;B[kk])
(;B[ml]
;W[ll]
;B[lm]
;W[km]
;B[ln]
;W[kn]
;B[mn]
;W[ig]C[Himiko [1k\]: the difference is big
]))
(;W[fg]C[Himiko [1k\]: I think it would be better
elligain [5k\]: i didnt see the tsumego ^^
]
;B[hi]C[elligain [5k\]: here im happy
Himiko [1k\]: probably this would be good strategy for black
]
;W[ik]
;B[hg]TR[hi]C[Himiko [1k\]: you probably get eaten here
Himiko [1k\]: and the marked stone should be useful when I invade your moyo
]))
(;B[ko]C[Himiko [1k\]: maybe I was a bit slack
]))
(;W[cm]
;B[bm]
;W[dm]
;B[bn]
;W[eo]
;B[ko]))
(;W[fm]C[elligain [5k\]: but as you was saying
]
;B[fg]C[elligain [5k\]: it is open on the rigth
elligain [5k\]: so i have to make a wall in sente
Himiko [1k\]: I think to be honest you are behind anyway, but it was a premature invasion that got you behind.
elligain [5k\]: yes 
]))
(;W[bg]
(;B[dk]C[elligain [5k\]: but you get a wall
elligain [5k\]: with d14
elligain [5k\]: in sente
Himiko [1k\]: I think it's better than the game though
])
(;B[df]C[elligain [5k\]: to attack l17
]
;W[dg]
;B[cg]
;W[de]
;B[ef]
;W[ee]
;B[fe]
;W[ce]
;B[bh]C[elligain [5k\]: f14 instead
]
;W[ff]
;B[eg]
;W[fd]
;B[ge]TR[bd][ce][cf][bg]C[Himiko [1k\]: I would be happy just to kill you here
elligain [5k\]: ^^
]
;W[bf]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
]
(;B[ae])
(;B[ss]
;W[ae]
;B[ag]))))
(;W[jd]C[Himiko [1k\]: yes, K16 would be very obedient
elligain [5k\]: n15
]
;B[ld]
(;W[me]
(;B[kf]C[elligain [5k\]: ^^
]
(;W[ke]
;B[le]
;W[lf]
;B[mf])
(;W[mf]
;B[lf]
;W[lc]
;B[kc]
;W[mh]C[elligain [5k\]: n13 instead
]))
(;B[mf]C[Himiko [1k\]: my position is very thick, so I can fight very severely
elligain [5k\]: n14
Himiko [1k\]: but not like this :-)
]
;W[le]
;B[ke]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
]
;W[kf]))
(;W[mc]
;B[me]
;W[le]
;B[ke]
;W[lf]
;B[kf])
(;W[lc]
;B[me]
;W[mc]
;B[lf]TR[mi][ni][oi]C[elligain [5k\]: yes m 16 is good
Himiko [1k\]: and now you are starting to have more problems
])))
(;B[kd]C[Himiko [1k\]: so I think your defence was good
]
;W[jd]
;B[lc]
;W[mc]
;B[ke]
;W[kf]
(;B[le]
;W[lb])
(;B[lb]
;W[lf]
;B[le]
;W[me]
;B[mf]
;W[kc]
;B[ld]
;W[kb])))
(;B[rj]
(;W[ri])
(;W[rg]
;B[qi]
;W[ri]
;B[ph]
;W[qj]C[Himiko [1k\]: you might be able to make a ko here, and it would probably be worth ignoring any ko threat I threw at you
]
;B[oq]
;W[qi]
;B[op]
;W[qe]C[Himiko [1k\]: for example, this line would be unclear
Himiko [1k\]: advantage for black, but more complicated than I would like
])))
(;W[nk]))
(;W[qj]
;B[ok]
;W[qk]
;B[pi]
;W[rh]
;B[qi]
;W[ri]
;B[rl]))
(;AE[ab][ec]
;W[gc]C[Himiko [1k\]: is quite nice
elligain [5k\]: yes
])
(;W[gc]C[Himiko [1k\]: now I can just ignroe it
])
(;W[em]C[Himiko [1k\]: you might like to build like this
elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: this is good
Himiko [1k\]: you tried a similar idea in the game
Himiko [1k\]: but left some weaknesses behind
elligain [5k\]: yes
]
;B[fo]
(;W[go]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
Himiko [1k\]: but being prepared to give a little to take a lot of influence is cool
elligain [5k\]: yes
]
;B[fp]
;W[fn]C[Himiko [1k\]: is not very effective for me
])
(;W[fp]C[Himiko [1k\]: don't just respond
Himiko [1k\]: this kind of move is weak
])))
(;B[lc]C[elligain [5k\]: o15
Himiko [1k\]: I don't know
]
;W[ne]
;B[pf]
;W[qc]C[elligain [5k\]: and now san san
]
;B[pc]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[rb]
(;B[oc])
(;B[pa]
;W[qb]
;B[oc]
;W[rf]C[Himiko [1k\]: it would be another game
])))
(;W[bb]C[Himiko [1k\]: you should play here I think
elligain [5k\]: ok
Himiko [1k\]: it settles you and makes me play again
]
(;B[db]
;W[ce]C[elligain [5k\]: b18 c15
elligain [5k\]: no ?
])
(;B[ce]
;W[bd]C[Himiko [1k\]: I don't like it
elligain [5k\]: d18 now
]
;B[db]
;W[be]
;B[de]C[Himiko [1k\]: black has bad shape
elligain [5k\]: ok
Himiko [1k\]: and gote
])))
(;W[bc]C[Himiko [1k\]: here looks reasonable
]
;B[dc]C[elligain [5k\]: but as you tenuki before
]
;W[bb]C[elligain [5k\]: i play too fast
]
;B[ic]TR[cf][cn]C[Himiko [1k\]: this is not bad at all
elligain [5k\]: yes
Himiko [1k\]: both stones are low, so left side is not a priority now
Himiko [1k\]: you can play in the top right or even L5 if you like now
]
;W[jd]C[Himiko [1k\]: and this might be fun, too
]))
(;W[ec]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
Himiko [1k\]: yuo can also play this way
]
;B[fc]
;W[dc]
(;B[fg]TR[fc][pd][fg]C[Himiko [1k\]: and maybe I can aim to play on a big scale like this
])
(;B[fd]
;W[ep]
;B[eq]
;W[fq]
;B[dq]
;W[gp]
;B[cn]
(;W[kq])
(;W[jd]
;B[eg]C[Himiko [1k\]: another game
]))))
