(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[3]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[solaris]PB[JoostvdPol]BR[1d]DT[2011-05-26]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp][pp]C[solaris [-\]:  Have a good game
JoostvdPol [1d\]: have a nice gzme
]RE[W+Resign]
;W[cd]WL[1793.588]
;B[jj]BL[1791.754]
;W[qj]WL[1783.747]
;B[dj]BL[1730.865]
;W[jq]WL[1779.309]
;B[qn]BL[1719.418]
;W[qf]WL[1772.633]
;B[nd]BL[1701.658]
;W[fq]WL[1766.527]
;B[cn]BL[1692.668]
;W[lc]WL[1757.957]
;B[ed]BL[1632.839]
;W[hd]WL[1754.987]
;B[ce]BL[1496.769]
;W[be]WL[1742.713]
;B[de]BL[1472.445]
;W[bf]WL[1740.509]
;B[cc]BL[1456.71]
;W[bd]WL[1736.676]
;B[cg]BL[1434.712]
(;W[ec]WL[1732.568]C[solaris [-\]: this is abd
solaris [-\]: top left is good for b
]
;B[dc]BL[1389.174]
;W[dd]WL[1723.563]
;B[fc]BL[1387.253]
;W[eb]WL[1720.897]
;B[fb]BL[1365.802]
;W[ee]WL[1710.34]
;B[fd]BL[1362.214]
;W[bc]WL[1703.438]
;B[ea]BL[1311.636]
;W[dg]WL[1695.447]
;B[ef]BL[1299.848]
;W[cf]WL[1671.696]
;B[fe]BL[1260.562]
;W[ic]WL[1663.192]
;B[ch]BL[1215.66]
;W[df]WL[1643.51]
;B[bb]BL[1200.326]
;W[dh]WL[1637.764]
(;B[ci]BL[1192.65]C[JoostvdPol [1d\]: ok
]
;W[fg]WL[1631.184]
(;B[fh]BL[1169.67]
;W[eg]WL[1628.051]
;B[gh]BL[1165.457]
;W[ff]WL[1625.688]
;B[ee]BL[1147.429]
;W[ab]WL[1622.827]
;B[cb]BL[1121.268]
;W[hg]WL[1616.867]LB[hq:C][lq:A][dr:B]C[solaris [-\]: w save himself
solaris [-\]: paly some clear big points
solaris [-\]: like defend top right
solaris [-\]: or
JoostvdPol [1d\]: right
solaris [-\]: cenetr left is not so big
JoostvdPol [1d\]: normally i wouldve played C
solaris [-\]: c without A, is not so good i think
JoostvdPol [1d\]: what about top left?
]
(;B[gp]BL[1098.974]
;W[fp]WL[1613.543]
;B[fo]BL[1060.237]
;W[go]WL[1607.679]
;B[ho]BL[1024.214]
;W[gn]WL[1605.733]
;B[gq]BL[971.733]
;W[gr]WL[1598.221]
;B[ip]BL[948.021]
;W[iq]WL[1595.86]
;B[hr]BL[923.844]
;W[hq]WL[1593.859]
;B[hp]BL[921.779]
;W[er]WL[1589.97]
;B[hn]BL[898.613]
;W[gm]WL[1393.736]
;B[eo]BL[873.389]
;W[hm]WL[1212.264]
;B[im]BL[868.889]
;W[il]WL[1191.292]
;B[jm]BL[862.466]
;W[jp]WL[1186.729]
;B[in]BL[843.654]
;W[gj]WL[1181.053]
;B[ei]BL[832.225]
;W[jl]WL[1175.291]
;B[kl]BL[793.955]
;W[km]WL[1169.862]
;B[kn]BL[784.064]
;W[lm]WL[1167.641]
;B[jo]BL[771.365]
;W[kk]WL[1162.786]
(;B[mc]BL[757.477]
;W[ld]WL[1159.611]TR[oc]C[solaris [-\]: usually 
solaris [-\]: this exhcange is abd
solaris [-\]: bad
solaris [-\]: for b
solaris [-\]: b shape is poor compare to w's
solaris [-\]: is played only when have attack value
JoostvdPol [1d\]: i thought it was ok now, since w is already strong left
solaris [-\]: or when u're sepereate and want life :)
JoostvdPol [1d\]: haha
JoostvdPol [1d\]: i really wanted life
JoostvdPol [1d\]: and i thought this was enough already
JoostvdPol [1d\]: didnt even consider sansan
]
;B[ln]BL[749.549]
;W[ll]WL[1157.537]
;B[kp]BL[746.724]
;W[kq]WL[1153.529]
;B[oq]BL[738.864]
;W[lp]WL[1151.325]
;B[ko]BL[734.806]
;W[cq]WL[1148.558]
;B[cp]BL[722.57]
;W[bq]WL[1145.448]
;B[bp]BL[711.793]
;W[hh]WL[1138.024]
;B[el]BL[677.314]
;W[qc]WL[1134.264]
;B[qd]BL[607.598]
;W[rd]WL[1131.532]
;B[re]BL[605.371]
;W[rc]WL[1129.855]
;B[qe]BL[601.284]
;W[ob]WL[1128.308]
;B[pf]BL[581.193]
;W[qg]WL[1125.798]
;B[pg]BL[575.786]
;W[ph]WL[1123.827]
;B[ng]BL[549.654]
;W[oh]WL[1116.416]
;B[pc]BL[524.372]
;W[pb]WL[1113.96]C[JoostvdPol [1d\]: either way im falling behind
solaris [-\]: Thank you
JoostvdPol [1d\]: thanks =)
solaris [-\]: looks like :)
solaris [-\]: bottom was very ba d
JoostvdPol [1d\]: yes
])
(;B[nf]LB[nb:B][rd:A]C[solaris [-\]: better run out
solaris [-\]: than trying to close 2 doors
JoostvdPol [1d\]: ah of course
JoostvdPol [1d\]: yes, thats what i was worried about
JoostvdPol [1d\]: N17, M16 exchange also limited chance to run afterwards
])
(;B[qc]C[solaris [-\]: better just make life
]
;B[he]C[solaris [-\]: so, cut still possible, so w top not so weak
solaris [-\]: not so strong*
]
(;W[hf]
;B[ie]TR[ic][hg]C[JoostvdPol [1d\]: yes, looks better
solaris [-\]: still can cut
]
;AE[cb]TR[cb]PL[B]
;B[ba]C[solaris [-\]: this is better
solaris [-\]: u have 2 eyes
]
;AE[ba]AW[hb]AB[cb]TR[hb]C[solaris [-\]: now this is sente
]
;W[ba]
;B[ca]
;W[db]C[JoostvdPol [1d\]: right
solaris [-\]: no eyes
])
(;AE[qc]PL[B]
;B[mc]
;W[ld]LB[oc:A][qc:C][rd:B]TR[mc][ld]C[JoostvdPol [1d\]: now its stronger
solaris [-\]: this make w strong
solaris [-\]: yes
JoostvdPol [1d\]: and still open door
solaris [-\]: yes
JoostvdPol [1d\]: =)
solaris [-\]: ok, thanks :)
JoostvdPol [1d\]: thank you very much
JoostvdPol [1d\]: learned a lot =)
JoostvdPol [1d\]: bye
])))
(;B[lq]C[solaris [-\]: A is big
]
;W[dr]
;B[cq]
;W[hp]
;B[oq]C[solaris [-\]: for example
JoostvdPol [1d\]: big corner
solaris [-\]: w defend and b defend too
solaris [-\]: yes
]))
(;B[fj]C[solaris [-\]: but just normal 
]
;W[fh]
;B[hj]
;W[hg]C[solaris [-\]: better thickness
solaris [-\]: w played just dame
JoostvdPol [1d\]: true
JoostvdPol [1d\]: but still, didnt know how to use that thickness in this game
JoostvdPol [1d\]: because of F3+K3
solaris [-\]: u don't have to
solaris [-\]: wait
JoostvdPol [1d\]: maybe just split it up and fight
solaris [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: but 
solaris [-\]: should wait
solaris [-\]: can't use it direct, is true
solaris [-\]: but sure is good exchange for b
JoostvdPol [1d\]: right
solaris [-\]: b get thickness for w neutrals
JoostvdPol [1d\]: never bad
solaris [-\]: so, a gain :)
solaris [-\]: right
JoostvdPol [1d\]: but still
JoostvdPol [1d\]: white secured 2 weak groups
solaris [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: but very small
solaris [-\]: can't attack or kill w :)
solaris [-\]: if w defend
solaris [-\]: b solid, this is important
solaris [-\]: have bigger potential
JoostvdPol [1d\]: right
solaris [-\]: have sente
JoostvdPol [1d\]: also important
solaris [-\]: so, just have to play antural
solaris [-\]: can't try supernatural things :)
JoostvdPol [1d\]: haha
JoostvdPol [1d\]: i keep trying the impossible
JoostvdPol [1d\]: and fail over and over again
solaris [-\]: yes, u want to much
solaris [-\]: but idea in go is to find the natural way
solaris [-\]: at least first
solaris [-\]: and after u know natural way
solaris [-\]: simplest and honest way
solaris [-\]: 50-50
solaris [-\]: then to try to make it 51-49 for u
JoostvdPol [1d\]: makes sense
JoostvdPol [1d\]: because when you try to enforce things, you sort of weaken yourself first
JoostvdPol [1d\]: and you dedicate yourself to 1 single goal
JoostvdPol [1d\]: giving up flexibility
JoostvdPol [1d\]: 1 more thing?
JoostvdPol [1d\]: N17, was that ok?
JoostvdPol [1d\]: or should i immediately finish it with something like R16, S17?
solaris [-\]: just a sec, phone
JoostvdPol [1d\]: ok
solaris [-\]: no, n17 not good usually
]))
(;B[di]C[solaris [-\]: is better shape
solaris [-\]: more solid on side
]))
(;W[dc]C[solaris [-\]: should hane
]
;B[ec]
;W[db]))
