(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[5]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[roln111]PB[nightwolf]WR[8d]BR[10k]DT[2010-06-06]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[dd][pd][jj][dp][pp]C[nightwolf [10k\]: have a good game
roln111 [8d\]: have a good game
Andromedan [2k\]: without a stone around K4
]RE[W+Resign]
(;W[fq]WL[1772.229]LB[cn:A][dn:B][hp:C][ip:E][jp:G][hq:D][iq:F][jq:H]C[nightwolf [10k\]: oh so in other words ur saying i should have played e3 -.-
Andromedan [2k\]: no
nightwolf [10k\]: grrrrrr
Andromedan [2k\]: e3 too...like d3, only good 
Andromedan [2k\]: if
Andromedan [2k\]: just A,B to expand the corner stone or c-h for your favorite pincer in the position
Andromedan [2k\]: all these force white to defend and you've expanded more than in the game
Andromedan [2k\]: makes sense?
nightwolf [10k\]: sure
Andromedan [2k\]: heh don't ignore it
Andromedan [2k\]: of course, in a high handicap game, white may not defend...but then he's easier to punish and attack.
]
(;B[dq]BL[1793.001]C[Andromedan [2k\]: interesting
Andromedan [2k\]: feeling aggressive today aren't we?:)
nightwolf [10k\]: who?
Andromedan [2k\]: you
Andromedan [2k\]: c3 is not a move that is any good if you don't plan to attack....
nightwolf [10k\]: well my last two games i won were like all fighting the whole game
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
Andromedan [2k\]: the trouble is
nightwolf [10k\]: u mean d3?
Andromedan [2k\]: yes
Andromedan [2k\]: you can't fight here..
Andromedan [2k\]: not without a stone around K4 already there
]
;W[mp]WL[1736.987]
;B[nq]BL[1787.524]
;W[mq]WL[1701.89]
;B[np]BL[1761.062]
;W[mo]WL[1686.688]
;B[pm]BL[1753.312]
;W[co]WL[1672.059]C[nightwolf [10k\]: must have since u say im 8k -.-
nightwolf [10k\]: hasnt even gone up
]
(;B[cp]BL[1750.35]C[Andromedan [2k\]: so
Andromedan [2k\]: white has two stones around
]
;W[bp]WL[1613.191]
;B[bq]BL[1727.02]
;W[cf]WL[1524.817]
;B[bd]BL[1676.746]
;W[fc]WL[1515.591]
;B[ec]BL[1665.451]
;W[fd]WL[1511.143]
;B[df]BL[1662.564]
;W[cg]WL[1483.752]
;B[ce]BL[1658.24]
;W[jc]WL[1376.114]
;B[lc]BL[1653.927]
;W[nc]WL[1338.176]
;B[le]BL[1634.59]
;W[ne]WL[1331.254]
;B[je]BL[1631.579]
;W[pf]WL[1276.164]
;B[oc]BL[1598.76]
;W[nb]WL[1255.499]
;B[ob]BL[1582.574]
;W[kc]WL[1120.005]
;B[kd]BL[1537.134]
;W[lb]WL[1110.183]
;B[hd]BL[1533.306]
;W[hc]WL[1086.23]
;B[id]BL[1461.18]
;W[ic]WL[1078.19]
;B[fb]BL[1458.896]
;W[gb]WL[1012.163]
;B[eb]BL[1409.979]
;W[qe]WL[960.78]
;B[qd]BL[1381.407]
;W[qk]WL[956.608]
;B[nk]BL[1374.794]
;W[rm]WL[937.017]
;B[ro]BL[1342.141]
;W[cj]WL[923.276]
;B[fo]BL[1299.442]
;W[hp]WL[874.206]
;B[bo]BL[1285.089]
;W[bn]WL[814.083]
;B[ao]BL[1267.06]
;W[rd]WL[797.135]
;B[rc]BL[1262.342]
;W[re]WL[706.914]
;B[qb]BL[1241.96]
;W[cn]WL[658.174]
;B[an]BL[1221.329]
;W[am]WL[630.643]
;B[ap]BL[1211.416]
;W[bl]WL[568.215]
;B[gd]BL[1195.238]
;W[gc]WL[526.745]
;B[fe]BL[1114.542]
;W[nr]WL[491.326]
;B[or]BL[1108.285]
;W[mr]WL[479.602]
;B[no]BL[1076.836]
;W[pr]WL[467.151]
;B[os]BL[1047.38]
;W[pq]WL[460.247]
;B[oq]BL[1045.781]
;W[qp]WL[459.226]
;B[qo]BL[1042.512]
;W[po]WL[450.576]
;B[pn]BL[1039.057]
;W[op]WL[430.827]C[nightwolf [10k\]: oh fight :D
]
;B[oo]BL[1032.069]
;W[rp]WL[427.476]
;B[ps]BL[1028.139]
;W[pp]WL[395.964]
;B[qn]BL[966.251]
;W[qr]WL[319.072]
(;B[sp]BL[962.521]
;W[rq]WL[300.481]
;B[qs]BL[956.011]
;W[rs]WL[290.239]
;B[sq]BL[945.374]
;W[sr]WL[282.169]
;B[so]BL[943.793]
;W[nm]WL[267.346]
;B[nn]BL[929.338]
;W[mn]WL[262.229]
;B[mm]BL[922.052]
;W[ml]WL[253.618]
;B[lm]BL[920.21]
;W[nl]WL[250.995]
;B[ql]BL[892.56]
;W[pk]WL[229.021]
;B[rl]BL[889.754]
;W[rk]WL[219.234]
;B[sm]BL[887.053]
;W[rn]WL[217.22]
;B[ol]BL[883.229]
;W[ok]WL[208.302]
;B[mk]BL[880.637]
;W[ll]WL[183.734]
;B[sk]BL[846.115]
;W[ri]WL[163.383]
;B[oj]BL[832.605]
;W[kl]WL[141.972]
;B[qh]BL[801.914]
;W[rh]WL[117.884]C[nightwolf [10k\]: no chance left :(
nightwolf [10k\]: spasibo.. thanks roln
roln111 [8d\]: thanks
])
(;B[rr]C[Andromedan [2k\]: trying other ideasd
Andromedan [2k\]: s
]
(;W[so]
;B[sn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: hmm
])
(;W[rq]C[Andromedan [2k\]: hmm
Andromedan [2k\]: control
Andromedan [2k\]: for a sec
Andromedan [2k\]: ag
Andromedan [2k\]: ah
Andromedan [2k\]: better for roln to have it
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
nightwolf [10k\]: well hes still playing
Andromedan [2k\]: thanks
Andromedan [2k\]: first
]
;B[qs]C[roln111 [8d\]: r1 for black
roln111 [8d\]: its ko
nightwolf [10k\]: here?
]
;W[rs]
;B[ss]
;W[so]
;B[sn]
;W[sp]
;B[rn]
;W[sr]
;B[rs])
(;W[qs]C[Andromedan [2k\]: kill white
Andromedan [2k\]: say black's move
Andromedan [2k\]: don't retake control please
nightwolf [10k\]: s3
]
;B[rq]
;W[so]C[nightwolf [10k\]: t6
]
;B[sn]
;W[sp]
;B[rn]
;W[sr]C[nightwolf [10k\]: s1
]
(;B[rs]
;W[sq]C[Andromedan [2k\]: well
Andromedan [2k\]: that's seki
Andromedan [2k\]: not good enough
Andromedan [2k\]: I think
])
(;B[sq]C[nightwolf [10k\]: good enough for me -.-
Andromedan [2k\]: seki is only worth a couple of points
Andromedan [2k\]: this is a ko
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
]
;W[rs]C[nightwolf [10k\]: id lose a ko -.-
]
;B[ss]C[Andromedan [2k\]: no
Andromedan [2k\]: wrong approach
Andromedan [2k\]: losing a ko = the opponent ignored a threat somewhere to win the ko
Andromedan [2k\]: so you get two moves in a row somewhere else
nightwolf [10k\]: -.-
Andromedan [2k\]: for compensation
Andromedan [2k\]: so if you're trying to kill
Andromedan [2k\]: if you're attacking
Andromedan [2k\]: ko is much better than seki
Andromedan [2k\]: if you're defending...the other way around
])))
(;B[qs]C[Andromedan [2k\]: actuall
Andromedan [2k\]: y
Andromedan [2k\]: why not just this?
Andromedan [2k\]: must be at least a ko
Andromedan [2k\]: no?
Andromedan [2k\]: or maybe death
Andromedan [2k\]: where does white play?
nightwolf [10k\]: on phone
Andromedan [2k\]: ah
Andromedan [2k\]: ok
Andromedan [2k\]: waiting
nightwolf [10k\]: t2?
roln111 [8d\]: s1 s2 t2 
]
(;W[sr]
;B[rs]C[Andromedan [2k\]: ok
Andromedan [2k\]: and now?
nightwolf [10k\]: hell if i know -.-
]
;W[so]
;B[sn]
;W[sp]
;B[rn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: not enough place for two eyes
Andromedan [2k\]: I think
Andromedan [2k\]: in this variation at least
nightwolf [10k\]: w dead this way -.-
])
(;W[on]
;B[nn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: maybe some libery issue with the right side group
roln111 [8d\]: no
])
(;W[rs]
;B[rr]
;W[sr]C[roln111 [8d\]: its ko
Andromedan [2k\]: oh
Andromedan [2k\]: heh
Andromedan [2k\]: yeah
Andromedan [2k\]: of course
Andromedan [2k\]: ko
Andromedan [2k\]: this way
Andromedan [2k\]: so there's no escaping a ko
]
;B[ss]C[Andromedan [2k\]: hmm
Andromedan [2k\]: black is quit strong on most of the board
Andromedan [2k\]: so ko threates for white are not easy to come by
Andromedan [2k\]: quite
Andromedan [2k\]: interesting
])))
(;B[fp])
(;B[do]))
(;B[eq]
;W[fp]
;B[dn]
;W[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: he has another easy way to settle his stone
Andromedan [2k\]: if he wants
Andromedan [2k\]: same idea for d3
Andromedan [2k\]: it works well if you have more stones to attack with in the area
])
(;B[cn]
;W[nq]C[Andromedan [2k\]: and if he tries this
Andromedan [2k\]: hoping to build a good position on the bottom
Andromedan [2k\]: hoping for you to cooperate 
]
(;B[qn]
;W[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: like this
Andromedan [2k\]: but, you won't cooperate, right?:)
nightwolf [10k\]: -.-
])
(;B[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: this move pincers BOTH stones
Andromedan [2k\]: of course, ilya being ilya, he won't defend,
]
;W[qn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: and play something like this
Andromedan [2k\]: but, go is a difficult game
Andromedan [2k\]: don't let your opponent get easy good results in areas you had the advantage in
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
Andromedan [2k\]: sometimes, that means fighting
nightwolf [10k\]: nah u dont say 0,0
Andromedan [2k\]: heh
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
Andromedan [2k\]: this way white still has no position, he's split and F3 is weak
nightwolf [10k\]: im so innocent i dont know how to fight -.-
Andromedan [2k\]: so as long as you don't get a horrible result on the bottom right, you're doing great
Andromedan [2k\]: even just getting the extra c6 move and isolating f3 means you got a great benefit here
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
Andromedan [2k\]: innocent..... yes:) I'll believe that. ... for now
Andromedan [2k\]: heh
Andromedan [2k\]: but really, your game has improved
])))
(;AB[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: you already have a stone around K4
]
;W[fq]C[nightwolf [10k\]: oh well fine ill just ignore it next time -.-
]
;B[eq]C[Andromedan [2k\]: then
Andromedan [2k\]: you take the corner
Andromedan [2k\]: AND 
Andromedan [2k\]: you have a stone that blocks his escape to the side
Andromedan [2k\]: for a base
]
;W[fp]LB[do:A]C[Andromedan [2k\]: so as he runs out
Andromedan [2k\]: he's only threatening to strengthen himself in one direction
]
;B[dn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: and white is still in trouble
]))
