(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[Pugovka]WR[3p]BR[5d]DT[2013-02-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[Pugovka [5d\]: Приятной игры
breakfast [3p\]: удачной игры
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1790.687]
;W[dd]WL[1788.679]
;B[pq]BL[1785.701]C[Jbh [4k\]: hello
GoVitalii [?\]: привет
]
;W[po]WL[1649.684]
;B[qo]BL[1727.442]
;W[qn]WL[1528.343]
;B[qp]BL[1683.233]
;W[cp]WL[1473.966]
;B[ep]BL[1674.157]
;W[eq]WL[1408.235]
;B[fq]BL[1658.757]
;W[dq]WL[1396.881]
;B[fp]BL[1605.492]
;W[do]WL[1365.882]
(;B[jp]BL[1590.475]
;W[pn]WL[1220.965]
;B[np]BL[1556.446]C[aikido [?\]: hello
twisted [-\]: any real need to ply high here?
]
;W[qj]WL[1017.444]
;B[fc]BL[1528.591]C[kayagsa [3d\]: who win?
]
;W[cf]WL[979.964]
;B[db]BL[1495.91]C[herissondu [1d\]: without a stone around C10, D5 is a little wierd
Hobbes [2k\]: maybe w is planning to tenuky
twisted [-\]: k5 also looks a bit too much of a stretch  from o4
Hobbes [2k\]: or h17 josekys
]
;W[cc]WL[828.098]C[pok [1k\]: g17 ?
]
;B[ic]BL[1489.765]C[pok [1k\]: lol
Hobbes [2k\]: He wasn't :-)
]
;W[qf]WL[794.696]C[klausP [4d?\]: d5 cant be pressed down
]
;B[nd]BL[1451.765]C[flacfr: boring josekis
Gibbon [?\]: b is better?
]
;W[qc]WL[1652.543]
;B[qd]BL[1440.006]
;W[rd]WL[1616.603]C[ourhouse: i like w
]
(;B[re]BL[1390.74]C[twisted [-\]: i think w better
Wagaboo [2k\]: i prefer b
Wagaboo [2k\]: but m3 looks painfull
]
;W[rb]WL[1542.569]
;B[sd]BL[1375.373]C[Syptryn [4d\]: b is so behind now..
]
;W[rc]WL[1536.707]C[Gibbon [?\]: why Syptryn?
Syptryn [4d\]: look at top
Syptryn [4d\]: wrong direction
Wagaboo [2k\]: r15 p18 n17  ?
Arhiman [3d\]: dunno why b didn't turn and take sente
riverse [7k\]: s15 should be at q17
Syptryn [4d\]: black ended up being trick into wrong joseki bot right tooo
Arhiman [3d\]: there's no way he can get something from attacking r14
klausP [4d?\]: but black will get the oba on the left
]
;B[qe]BL[1287.36]
;W[nb]WL[1494.459]
;B[qh]BL[1249.829]C[klausP [4d?\]: hm
klausP [4d?\]: maybe not even that
twisted [-\]: oba klaus?
Gibbon [?\]: direction of play is a big mystery to me. 
klausP [4d?\]: oba= last bg move
twisted [-\]: k thx
klausP [4d?\]: c9 rather big splitting move for black
UrriS [6k\]: not only last ^^
]
;W[oj]WL[1394.539]C[flacfr: q17 was obvious. b wanted to fight i guess
klausP [4d?\]: right UrriS see http://senseis.xmp.net/?Oba
RobertT [-\]: there is no fight
]
;B[ck]BL[1162.276]
;W[hr]WL[1375.902]C[klausP [4d?\]: brekfast style, saying: I got points and you?
cnorris [2k\]: there is now a fight?
]
;B[gr]BL[1104.908]C[klausP [4d?\]: not likely
Tuc [1d?\]: i prefer j3 black 
]
;W[hp]WL[1352.603]
;B[ho]BL[1101.193]C[Verse [1k\]: if B gets the chance to play C12 I think the game is event
Verse [1k\]: even*
]
;W[kq]WL[1334.42]C[Verse [1k\]: perhaps even favors B slightly
cjjjk: not really 
Olmerek [?\]: w is working to make this game even
Verse [1k\]: maybe not C12 exactly, but something in that area, pressure the corner develop to the center
klausP [4d?\]: well, w will just answer c18 and say: I got the corner ans you?
cjjjk: also no , but ok 
cjjjk: to Verse
cnorris [2k\]: if w installs a live group in the middle of this area, game looks owari to me
RobertT [-\]: not if, its when
]
;B[ch]BL[997.66]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: what is japanese term for installing a group
Arhiman [3d\]: I like this move
ourhouse: l4 seems big
Nefalem [3d?\]: c18 also not small
ourhouse: c12 is big, but dealing with bottom is urgent
Arhiman [3d\]: you mean an extending move, koukkaaja ?
flacfr: w can also ignore i guess
cnorris [2k\]: c7 c12 miai?
Lentyi [1d\]: nope
Nefalem [3d?\]: he can but he'll has a rnning group than
]
;W[fd]WL[1270.81]C[Koukkaaja [3d\]: norris was talkin about installing a group
Nefalem [3d?\]: running*
ourhouse: i think that w is preparing a move at m17 or similar
]
;B[ec]BL[950.943]C[Arhiman [3d\]: hiraki would be an extension
cnorris [2k\]: i think w is concerned about b c18, w b18, b b16 
klausP [4d?\]: w seachnig for sente here
Koukkaaja [3d\]: why did not w just c18
Nefalem [3d?\]: ofc he's searching
klausP [4d?\]: to play on the bottom
riverse [7k\]: c18 is gote
klausP [4d?\]: jup, i thought black must play on the bottom and take sente later
]
;W[kp]WL[1160.085]C[cnorris [2k\]: c18 is a big move, though
]
;B[cb]BL[930.438]C[twisted [-\]: this is painful
mgelo [2k?\]: ??
BinX [?\]: b c6 first ?
mgelo [2k?\]: just throw H5 to the lions?
twisted [-\]: i guess he thinks c18 is sente
Verse [1k\]: h5 ain't dead yet.
flacfr: e14 i like
cnorris [2k\]: f14 is shape?
mgelo [2k?\]: g16
Nefalem [3d?\]: ehm i was sure he'll tenuki here (
flacfr: also j4 treatens to kill big
UnrealMist [3k\]: w+ now
Nefalem [3d?\]: maybe something like f14 
twisted [-\]: f14 looks honte
Hobbes [2k\]:  b has p3 to worry a bit about as well
Nefalem [3d?\]: or d12 c11 e12 
]
;W[nr]WL[1403.464]C[twisted [-\]: but would be nice not to strengthen those stones
BinX [?\]: strange sequence ? why nobi if not hane ?
klausP [4d?\]: tenukifight yay
]
;B[nq]BL[864.942]C[mgelo [2k?\]: any ladder considerations?
PascalHH [?\]: your comments are great Hahaha black is better i think white is better Hahahha of course white is better hes Alexander Dinerstein A 3 Pro Proffesional player
]
;W[or]WL[1355.818]C[cnorris [2k\]: wb18 b b16 involves a ladder
mgelo [2k?\]: interesting idea Rascal
]
;B[pr]BL[789.552]C[mgelo [2k?\]: W gets sente!
]
;W[mq]WL[1336.215]C[twisted [-\]: now b looks in trouble
]
;B[mp]BL[712.798]C[ourhouse: be must fix the k4 shape
]
;W[lr]WL[1285.373]C[klausP [4d?\]: bs problem is, the white corner is harder to atack 
mgelo [2k?\]: and B lower left is bad shape
mgelo [2k?\]: *lower right
]
;B[oq]BL[657.528]
;W[cm]WL[1264.535]C[mgelo [2k?\]: wow these 2 moves are completely surprising
cnorris [2k\]: induce be12, thenw f14?
aaardvark [9k\]: m18 now?
murrmurr [6d?\]: aaah. cold feels so good against forehead
]
;B[fn]BL[541.864]C[cnorris [2k\]: 7°C, yellow, white foam, in a glass?  
mgelo [2k?\]: i think he means a gun
murrmurr [6d?\]: just something picked out of freezer
]
;W[dl]WL[1172.252]C[mgelo [2k?\]: yay splitting attack
flacfr: L5?
]
;B[eh]BL[423.132]
;W[bh]WL[1029.094]C[mgelo [2k?\]: there goes our F14 :0
]
;B[bg]BL[388.224]
;W[cg]WL[1011.746]
;B[bf]BL[385.387]C[ghaele [-\]: nice one
]
;W[dh]WL[956.778]
;B[ci]BL[354.067]
;W[di]WL[937.639]C[Arhiman [3d\]: d11 painful
TomSwirly [6k\]: black's position seems overall painful - lots of floating groups
]
;B[ce]BL[262.956]C[klausP [4d?\]: wonder if w will be happy with c10 now
]
;W[de]WL[852.923]C[klausP [4d?\]: nope
mgelo [2k?\]: c10 a bit messy then he's have to kill bottom
klausP [4d?\]: jup, corner too big to give
]
;B[bi]BL[149.712]C[mgelo [2k?\]: D10 a bit thin?
]
;W[eg]WL[797.573]
;B[ql]BL[130.405]C[TomSwirly [6k\]: unexpected!
TomSwirly [6k\]: (to me.  :-D)
klausP [4d?\]: b desperate
]
;W[pl]WL[775.173]C[mgelo [2k?\]: B got spirit
mgelo [2k?\]: in the freezer
ghaele [-\]: s6
TomSwirly [6k\]: why not invade at p8?
TomSwirly [6k\]: q8 was an overplay.
Arhiman [3d\]: we can't really say "invade" about p8
mgelo [2k?\]: r8 is standard point
cnorris [2k\]: still works with p10 in place?
TomSwirly [6k\]: "standard" players don't necessarily win.
Arhiman [3d\]: s8 now
mgelo [2k?\]: was this a "fresh" comment?
flacfr: s8 hurts corner after w s6
ghaele [-\]: s6 yose sente
AntiHero [1k?\]: S10?
]
;B[rl]BL[60]OB[5]C[cnorris [2k\]: not s7/s5 combo?
]
;W[rn]WL[761.796]C[ghaele [-\]: painful for b...
]
;B[rj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pk]WL[731.814]
;B[qi]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[oh]WL[685.335]
;B[om]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pm]WL[627.528]
;B[nc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ob]WL[597.801]C[yacnut [4k\]: b look better
]
;B[mb]BL[60]OB[5]C[ghaele [-\]: w can now attack f3
Arhiman [3d\]: wonder if o17 would kinda be better at n17
NidanKolen [1k\]: I would say b is doing pretty well
Nefalem [3d?\]: interesting what kind of attack w'll use for f4 group
]
;W[sp]WL[478.876]C[mgelo [2k?\]: H16
Nefalem [3d?\]: wow
NidanKolen [1k\]: n7 for w is an interesting point
]
;B[rq]BL[60]OB[5]C[mgelo [2k?\]: W cnat kill this can he
NidanKolen [1k\]: no
zum [?\]: w can kill 3 eyes
Nefalem [3d?\]: dont think so
zum [?\]: 4p can kill 4 eyes
]
;W[ip]WL[402.424]
;B[pb]BL[60]OB[5]C[cnorris [2k\]: if w presses from outside, maybe b needs to worry about wr2?
ghaele [-\]: now w attack
Nefalem [3d?\]: i though it 'll be at j5 
]
;W[pc]WL[385.518]C[Syptryn [4d\]: huh
]
;B[oc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pa]WL[367.005]
;B[na]BL[60]OB[5]C[klausP [4d?\]: just some exchanges
]
;W[qb]WL[364.613]
;B[io]BL[60]OB[5]C[Syptryn [4d\]: not that great exchnages
Syptryn [4d\]: n-17 more severe
klausP [4d?\]: indeed
Nefalem [3d?\]: exchanges?
Nefalem [3d?\]: where&
]
;W[jo]WL[311.096]
;B[jn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jq]WL[305.349]
;B[im]BL[60]OB[5]C[klausP [4d?\]: I am weak at younting, but I count w leads in points
fgerger: younting very important
]
;W[mc]WL[229.564]C[fgerger: everyone should yount
totorotot [2k\]: how do you yount?
fgerger: in pairs
klausP [4d?\]: its tired counting
]
;B[md]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[lc]WL[225.426]
;B[lb]BL[297.683]C[klausP [4d?\]: you want to count but yaaaawn
totorotot [2k\]: -_-
]
;W[ld]WL[217.477]C[Arhiman [3d\]: I'd say b has a very small lead (less than 5), but w has more potential
]
;B[kb]BL[278.169]C[urzadek [3k?\]: robin yount
urzadek [3k?\]: professional 9d younter
klausP [4d?\]: did u yount komi?
yacnut [4k\]: what is 3p rank about? 6 7dan?
]
;W[le]WL[182.31]C[Arhiman [3d\]: no, you don't count komi when you count
]
;B[nf]BL[268.709]C[klausP [4d?\]: oh I do
Arhiman [3d\]: this fight looks good for b though
Nefalem [3d?\]: 3p is about 3p
mishik [3k\]: 1p is about 7dan
Arhiman [3d\]: counting komi is just confusing when you handle numbers
]
;W[id]WL[462.096]C[klausP [4d?\]: but some 3p are more 3p than others
mishik [3k\]: 3p is.... 3p, yes :)
Nefalem [3d?\]: nah 7d weaker than 1p
cnorris [2k\]: 3p is 7 2/3d
yacnut [4k\]: u funny guys..
largehc [-\]: this again 
urzadek [3k?\]: all you need to know is that breakfast is not a 6d or 7d
largehc [-\]: every time 
Nefalem [3d?\]: any p can be 9d here
nightcafe [1k\]: kgs 7d very strong
]
;B[hc]BL[209.648]C[cnorris [2k\]: 1p degree is about 1/3 stone
Syptryn [4d\]: k17 
Arhiman [3d\]: k17 pls
]
;W[of]WL[432.124]C[klausP [4d?\]: p14 is nice
]
;B[rf]BL[177.468]C[ghaele [-\]: n14?
Arhiman [3d\]: s14 at r13 ?
jerseykid [6k\]: i learn much from the discrepency between 3d calling move and 3pactual move. thanks to both :)
kansaskid [?\]: n13
]
;W[mf]WL[383.028]C[klausP [4d?\]: r13
klausP [4d?\]: i want to help too
]
;B[ni]BL[134.444]
;W[ph]WL[347.087]C[NidanKolen [1k\]: what is Pugovka`s name IRL?
flacfr: h16 big
]
;B[ng]BL[99.918]C[Firzen [3d\]: j15?
]
;W[ne]WL[313.951]C[cnorris [2k\]: Dina Burdakova?
]
;B[oe]BL[93.09]
;W[me]WL[309.078]C[NidanKolen [1k\]: ah, ok, thx
]
;B[od]BL[77.346]C[York [-\]: N11
cnorris [2k\]: not sure. matches her note about being russian female champion
Pristupa [2d\]: yes, she is
ghaele [-\]: o12*
nopotser [1d\]: w has more points but game looks not over
Pristupa [2d\]: and her husband HappyLook[5d\] is also here :)
Syptryn [4d\]: n7 
]
;W[jl]WL[196.548]C[nopotser [1d\]: i though b was playing...
nopotser [1d\]: lol
twisted [-\]: k8 nice
]
;B[ln]BL[31.669]C[nopotser [1d\]: vital point lesson
cnorris [2k\]: now collecting the four b stones on right?
twisted [-\]: collecting whole center
]
;W[ll]WL[162.284]C[kakan [10k\]: its so weird a 1p can beat a 6dan
nopotser [1d\]: pros makes things look like easy
urzadek [3k?\]: why is that weird
nopotser [1d\]: it is not weird
cnorris [2k\]: eh... i dont think b feels like this
TomSwirly [6k\]: it's weird that with years of dedicated work you can get much better at this game.  ;-)
NidanKolen [1k\]: w`s work on building the center was so delicate, beautiful
]
;B[og]BL[60]OB[5]C[kakan [10k\]: ,lol my goal is 4dan in 3 years
York [-\]: thats easy
TomSwirly [6k\]: 3 dan amateur would be doable.
nopotser [1d\]: how long have u been playing
kakan [10k\]: i started 2 months ago
jerseykid [6k\]: does laying about in the egr and lobbing the odd non-sequitor count as years of hard woirk? and if so, why am i not better already?
]
;W[pg]WL[122.877]C[cnorris [2k\]: 10k in 2 months is pretty fast
TomSwirly [6k\]: er, 4 dan amateur
kakan [10k\]: yeh well i am 11 years old
]
;B[pf]BL[60]OB[5]C[TomSwirly [6k\]: kakan: best time to start!
TomSwirly [6k\]: warp your mind young!
]
;W[il]WL[107.388]C[nopotser [1d\]: 4dan in kgs looks easible
York [-\]: i remember a friend of mine - 10months ago he's still a beginner joining DDK group in tournament
kakan [10k\]: not in kgs in the real world lol
nopotser [1d\]: 4dan amateur is preaty much difficult
nopotser [1d\]: but possible
York [-\]: now-tygem 5d
F525 [1k\]: York, is your friend mentally challenged?
urzadek [3k?\]: dont talk about it be about it
TomSwirly [6k\]: if you spent 10 hours a week seriously studying for three years you could make some amazing progress
kakan [10k\]: wait who is kakan
]
;B[kn]BL[60]OB[5]C[York [-\]: compare to him, i am:(
nopotser [1d\]: you will have to work so hard
F525 [1k\]: Maybe he just doesn't care.
flacfr: what do you do with the progress
]
;W[jc]WL[82.841]C[TomSwirly [6k\]: if you spent 30 hours a week, you'd have a better chance.
]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[5]C[TomSwirly [6k\]: use that time to play MORE go.
jerseykid [6k\]: everyone eventually meets the peter principle
TomSwirly [6k\]: it's like Amway, or drugs.
TomSwirly [6k\]: it becomes its own justification!
]
;W[li]WL[61.526]C[York [-\]: if you can spend 30hours a day, you could be within a month
TomSwirly [6k\]: you could be DEAD within a month.
Hikky [2d?\]: if you can spend 30 hours a day, you could do anything you want because you can break the laws of physics.
]
;B[mg]BL[60]OB[5]C[nopotser [1d\]: wow
]
;W[lg]WL[58.051]
;B[mi]BL[60]OB[5]C[Firzen [3d\]: black going for the cut ^^
nopotser [1d\]: w is saying here i am
York [-\]: perhaps he's a martian
klausP [4d?\]: cats can sleep 30 Hours a day, I have seen it
nopotser [1d\]: h16
F525 [1k\]: Don't have to break the laws of physics, just inhabit another planet.
]
;W[nl]WL[17.29]C[klausP [4d?\]: interesting how breakfast cashes his center influence here
TomSwirly [6k\]: or have a fast jet and race the sun...
nopotser [1d\]: or change the day definition
]
;B[mm]BL[60]OB[5]C[Hikky [2d?\]: here we go
nopotser [1d\]: :)
]
;W[lj]WL[5.704]C[jerseykid [6k\]: cashes? or caches?
Hikky [2d?\]: cashes
]
;B[jd]BL[60]OB[5]C[nopotser [1d\]: a pro game an we are kibizing
NidanKolen [1k\]: York, you say a guy made his way from DDK to a 5d Tygem in 10 months?
TomSwirly [6k\]: they can't hear us.
York [-\]: yes
jerseykid [6k\]: yes they can, tom
York [-\]: he plays >10games a day
Hikky [2d?\]: did he do steroids or something?
]
;W[je]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[he]BL[60]OB[5]C[NidanKolen [1k\]: York, no way
F525 [1k\]: Time settings?
York [-\]: idk
]
;W[hg]WL[60]OW[5]C[F525 [1k\]: Blitz?
nopotser [1d\]: h13 looks so calm
]
;B[ie]BL[60]OB[5]C[nopotser [1d\]: bbut i am sure is correct...
TomSwirly [6k\]: that was a neat little jump to the center, but h13...
]
;W[jf]WL[60]OW[5]C[Firzen [3d\]: what'S so weird about h13?
Firzen [3d\]: it's just a cap
s84ua [4k\]: e9 
twisted [-\]: even without the center w looksahead
]
;B[fk]BL[60]OB[5]C[Hikky [2d?\]: close enough s84ua : )
Firzen [3d\]: I like this black move
nopotser [1d\]: what's weird abou h13 ? it is go
TomSwirly [6k\]: none of this is weird.
]
;W[bl]WL[60]OW[5]C[TomSwirly [6k\]: if there were a red stone, that'd be weird.
Hikky [2d?\]: you're weird, the lot of you
urzadek [3k?\]: that would bea skittle
TomSwirly [6k\]: no, it was simply a pretty move.
Pugovka [5d\]: спасибо
breakfast [3p\]: спасибо!
urzadek [3k?\]: cnacn6o!
cnorris [2k\]: thx, very entertaining game
])
(;B[pc]C[York [-\]: спасибо!
Pugovka [5d\]: а потом на левую сторону?
nopotser [1d\]: can u coment in english...
lvovic [7k\]: и на русском тоже
UrriS [6k\]: this comment was single
]
;W[rb]
;B[qb]
;W[rc]
;B[ck]C[breakfast [3p\]: but still easy for W
]))
(;B[pn]
;W[jp]
;B[fn]C[breakfast [3p\]: because of 6.5 komi - can be better
breakfast [3p\]: active style
breakfast [3p\]: ok, that's all, see you
cnorris [2k\]: thx, bye
]))
