(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[SeoulPhoto]PB[cata]WR[5k]BR[8k]DT[2011-02-06]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[cata [8k\]: thanks : )
cata [8k\]: gl hf
]RE[W+Resign]
(;B[pp]BL[1792.753]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yeah, htat was an obvious one
]
;W[dd]WL[1777.146]
;B[qd]BL[1781.695]
;W[dp]WL[1758.908]C[cata [8k\]: then i thought i had an edge
]
;B[oc]BL[1773.069]
;W[qk]WL[1750.173]
;B[qm]BL[1721.818]
;W[qh]WL[1744.137]
;B[cj]BL[1692.555]
;W[jq]WL[1692.376]
;B[fc]BL[1644.416]
;W[cf]WL[1681.953]
;B[db]BL[1617.195]
;W[cc]WL[1650.869]
;B[id]BL[1608.698]
;W[cl]WL[1644.483]
;B[ej]BL[1600.628]
;W[nq]WL[1555.835]
(;B[lq]BL[1586.852]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: here is where our complications start
cata [8k\]: is this a normal thing to happen on the bottom right?  i don't know any joseki, i just try to play reasonable moves
cata [8k\]: i figured playing m3 almost couldn't be wrong
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: if you like to fight this is good
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: but you have weakness on right, too to think about
]
;W[no]WL[1514.429]C[cata [8k\]: ideal extension from o3/o5 over to the left
]
;B[lo]BL[1556.399]
;W[nm]WL[1472.644]
;B[jp]BL[1468.149]
;W[ip]WL[1460.578]
;B[jo]BL[1462.894]
;W[iq]WL[1452.906]
;B[kq]BL[1434.861]
;W[pr]WL[1360.598]
;B[qq]BL[1430.709]
;W[qo]WL[1351.834]C[cata [8k\]: i thought r3 would make me quite secure, but that placement gave me some trouble
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: :-)
cata [8k\]: if i play q5 immediately i guess you either escape or connect on the right?
cata [8k\]: so i don't know what to do except for q6
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: i thought if i did not play it now i would not get to play it later
]
(;B[pn]BL[1370.089]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: you came out okay going this way 
cata [8k\]: so you would stay connected
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: show me
]
(;W[mr]WL[1259.913]C[cata [8k\]: n2 seemed awfully defensive
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: i'm afraid of cut
]
(;B[cq]BL[1336.696]C[cata [8k\]: i thought if you played d3 or e3 you would have way too much
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yeah
cata [8k\]: since i knew you would build a wall in that direction while attacking my group
cata [8k\]: luckily i found time to get in there
]
;W[dq]WL[1236.818]
;B[cp]BL[1331.842]
;W[co]WL[1233.335]
;B[bo]BL[1329.473]
;W[cn]WL[1226.061]
;B[dr]BL[1310.367]
;W[er]WL[1221.023]C[cata [8k\]: yeah i meant bottom left
]
;B[cr]BL[1307.197]
;W[bn]WL[1212.978]
;B[ap]BL[1295.684]
;W[ro]WL[1185.61]
;B[po]BL[1276.559]
;W[qr]WL[1159.896]
;B[rq]BL[1256.039]
;W[rl]WL[1144.543]
;B[rm]BL[1247.216]
;W[pq]WL[1133.61]
;B[qp]BL[1245.555]
;W[rr]WL[1128.474]
;B[ol]BL[1229.23]
;W[om]WL[1119.035]
;B[pl]BL[1182.147]
;W[pm]WL[1095.195]C[cata [8k\]: so that worked out nicely for me, i escaped
]
;B[ql]BL[1179.358]
;W[rk]WL[1064.905]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: sorry, since i upgraded ram my computer likes to reboot on me at the worst times
cata [8k\]: heh np
]
;B[oj]BL[1132.239]
;W[pi]WL[1002.697]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: sometimes better not to kill, but to build wall while they esccape
cata [8k\]: it was hard for me to understand how to make all three of my groups safe though without giving you the entire bottom left
]
;B[nl]BL[1093.72]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yes, very important 
]
;W[mm]WL[994.157]
;B[km]BL[973.768]
;W[ml]WL[937.718]
;B[mk]BL[968.938]
;W[lk]WL[768.982]
;B[mj]BL[951.384]
;W[io]WL[707.459]
;B[in]BL[939.755]
;W[hn]WL[705.698]
;B[im]BL[921.702]
;W[hm]WL[702.622]
;B[fl]BL[765.934]
;W[hl]WL[670.505]
;B[il]BL[749.294]
;W[ik]WL[663.485]
;B[jk]BL[713.578]
;W[jj]WL[601.145]C[cata [8k\]: good shape helped me a lot
]
;B[ij]BL[653.591]
;W[hk]WL[543]
;B[kj]BL[631.769]
;W[jl]WL[493.497]C[cata [8k\]: but it did not work, i had too many forcing moves i guess
cata [8k\]: so i think it was bad
]
;B[ji]BL[583.623]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: i liked it :-)
]
;W[jm]WL[485.651]
;B[jn]BL[579.347]
;W[kl]WL[482.951]
;B[lm]BL[546.661]C[cata [8k\]: i did not see k8 it was scary
]
;W[ln]WL[459.614]
;B[kn]BL[526.508]
;W[ll]WL[442.503]
;B[mp]BL[493.264]C[cata [8k\]: did you see a different way to kill?  i thought i was alivenow
cata [8k\]: *alive now
]
(;W[kp]WL[438.519]
;B[mn]BL[479.041]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: my mistake
]
;W[oo]WL[412.635]
;B[mo]BL[454.853]
;W[ko]WL[395.277]
;B[lp]BL[449.457]
;W[dk]WL[359.406]
;B[ek]BL[409.558]
;W[dj]WL[354.88]
;B[di]BL[403.167]
;W[ei]WL[349.019]
;B[fi]BL[372.044]
;W[eh]WL[346.987]
;B[gj]BL[363.529]
;W[fh]WL[282.702]
;B[gh]BL[356.815]
;W[gg]WL[273.79]C[cata [8k\]: tough decision for me
cata [8k\]: i don't know if i did the right thing
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: black looking thick on top and i thought i need to reduce
cata [8k\]: i couldn't see how to keep the stones to reduce both bottom left and left middle though
cata [8k\]: so i had to sacrifice one group
cata [8k\]: i didn't really know here what i should expect in the top middle
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: m16 or 17 are big moves, because i'm hungry to plays in that area
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: this might be big enough for me to respond
]
(;B[ri]BL[218.501]
;W[rh]WL[250.648]
;B[ld]BL[176.262]C[cata [8k\]: whether i should play m16 or try to make an even bigger moyo
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: huge move
cata [8k\]: definitely
]
;W[pd]WL[222.984]
;B[pc]BL[169.508]
;W[qe]WL[218.373]
;B[rd]BL[150.547]
;W[re]WL[187.89]
;B[dl]BL[132.596]
;W[ck]WL[182.259]
;B[fn]BL[106.334]
;W[em]WL[163.565]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: so much for my moyo, i was in pain
]
;B[fm]BL[100.75]
;W[el]WL[161.543]
;B[en]BL[90.072]
;W[dm]WL[159.238]
;B[gk]BL[81.715]
;W[hi]WL[147.456]
;B[gi]BL[71.476]
;W[hj]WL[143.844]
;B[hh]BL[69.635]
;W[ii]WL[138.303]
;B[ih]BL[63.478]
;W[jh]WL[132.399]
;B[jg]BL[37.273]
;W[kh]WL[129.759]
;B[hg]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ki]WL[121.032]
;B[lj]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jj]WL[117.781]
;B[gf]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[od]WL[98.529]
;B[nd]BL[30]OB[4]C[cata [8k\]: unfortunately you broke through, so i can't expect anything in the top middle besides the side now
]
;W[sd]WL[95.869]
;B[rc]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[sc]WL[94.491]
;B[sb]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[se]WL[92.98]
;B[qb]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[of]WL[63.478]
;B[fr]BL[30]OB[4]C[cata [8k\]: t16 annoying : P
cata [8k\]: f2 annoying too : )
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: another good move
]
;W[fq]WL[30.247]
;B[es]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[eq]WL[20.069]
;B[gr]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[gq]WL[17.031]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: i thought for sure i was going to loase at this point, but had no time to really count the score
cata [8k\]: i can't count for beans
cata [8k\]: i can tell we're within about 30 points of each other
cata [8k\]: that's it
]
;B[oe]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[pe]WL[14.31]
;B[ne]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[gc]WL[0.912]C[cata [8k\]: tricky invasion to deal with
cata [8k\]: i guess it seems like my defense worked
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: my one hope is to play an attachment
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: to see how well you respond
]
;B[gd]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[fb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ec]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[fd]WL[30]OW[5]C[cata [8k\]: through your invasion i got a little in the top left corner too
cata [8k\]: that i probably didn't deserve
]
(;B[cb]BL[30]OB[3]C[cata [8k\]: yeah mb just time pressure, it looks good enough now
cata [8k\]: my move worked though i think
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: plus maybe you were getting greedy
cata [8k\]: increases liberties of black group there
]
;W[hd]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ge]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ic]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jd]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[jc]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[eb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[gb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[hc]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fa]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ed]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[dc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[hb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ea]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bc]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fg]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[eg]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ef]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[dg]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[df]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[cg]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nf]BL[30]OB[3]C[cata [8k\]: found some nice sente moves here
cata [8k\]: on left
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yes well played
]
;W[og]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[hr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[fs]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ds]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[cs]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[an]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[br]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[bq]BL[30]OB[3]C[cata [8k\]: lol @ bottom left
]
;W[ao]WL[30]OW[5]
(;B[as]BL[30]OB[3]C[cata [8k\]: surely i made a mistake to give up so much
]
;W[kg]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ac]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[bd]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ce]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[be]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[de]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[cd]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kf]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[jf]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ig]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ke]WL[30]OW[5]C[cata [8k\]: annoying
cata [8k\]: i missed it
cata [8k\]: good move
]
(;B[kd]BL[30]OB[3]C[cata [8k\]: well, can't blame me for playing l16 with such little time : P
]
;W[lf]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pj]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[qj]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oh]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ph]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nh]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ng]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[jr]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[op]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[np]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[oq]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[or]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sr]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[lr]WL[30]OW[5]
(;B[sl]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[sk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sm]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[sp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[sq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[qn]WL[30]OW[5]C[cata [8k\]: now i got greedy : X
]
;B[rn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[on]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[so]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[sn]WL[30]OW[5]
(;B[js]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[rs]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[so]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[fb]WL[30]OW[5]C[cata [8k\]: i couldn't find a single ko threat!
cata [8k\]: at least i can't see how to kill
]
;B[rp]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ga]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ab]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[kb]WL[30]OW[5]C[cata [8k\]: now i think you live up top
]
;B[ia]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ja]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ib]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[lb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[la]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[mb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nb]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[fe]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ff]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[if]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hf]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[he]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ob]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ma]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[is]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[fk]WL[30]OW[5]C[cata [8k\]: gg
cata [8k\]: time pressure!
cata [8k\]: want to review?
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: really intense game
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: sure go ahead
cata [8k\]: yeah, i thought i was hurting for a little while, until you gave me the ponnuki facing the top and my group in middle bottom was safe
])
(;B[pf]
;W[rs]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: mine was  alive because of miai
]
;B[so]
;W[fb]
;B[rp]
(;W[qf])
(;W[ga]
;B[qf]C[cata [8k\]: when i played s4 i saw that my group up top left was alive, but i didn't realize that yours could now live
]
;W[rf]
;B[rg]C[cata [8k\]: so i didn't understand it was serious
])))
(;B[qn]C[cata [8k\]: i just need to play t3 before having so few liberties left
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: simply connect, what do you think
cata [8k\]: or just connect
cata [8k\]: well it's clearly better than what happened
])
(;B[on]
;W[nn]C[cata [8k\]: ok, i guess that's it
]
;B[mq]C[cata [8k\]: thanks for the game!
cata [8k\]: let's play another later
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: looking forward to the next one
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: cyu
cata [8k\]: see ya
]
;W[kk]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: :-)
]))
(;B[lf]
;W[kd]C[cata [8k\]: oh
]
;B[ie]C[cata [8k\]: now m17?
cata [8k\]: but you have not enough liberties
]
;W[lc]
;B[kb]C[cata [8k\]: ok, i misread it, so i was afraid of m17, but it looks safe for black
]
;W[if]
;B[he]C[cata [8k\]: wait
]
(;W[lb]C[cata [8k\]: m15 white
]
;B[le])
(;W[le]
;B[md]
;W[mf]C[cata [8k\]: now m14, etc?
cata [8k\]: does that help?
]
;B[lg]
;W[mg]
;B[lh]
;W[li]
;B[mh]
;W[ng]C[cata [8k\]: i guess white would have to bail out with n15 earlier, and m17 cutting stone will still die
cata [8k\]: so this isn't much better or worse really
]
;B[me]
;W[mi]
;B[nh]C[cata [8k\]: hmm, threatening black's eyeshape
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yeah, now other black group in trouble
]
;W[ni]
;B[je]
;W[nj])))
(;B[bp]C[cata [8k\]: isn't that dead?
]
;W[ar]C[cata [8k\]: white a1
]
;B[as]C[cata [8k\]: a2
cata [8k\]: yeah
]
;W[bs]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: ouch
]))
(;B[hc]C[cata [8k\]: hmm, h17
cata [8k\]: why didn't i play that
cata [8k\]: maybe i did not want to give you g15
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: time pressure
]
;W[gb]
;B[ed]
;W[fe]
;B[ee]C[cata [8k\]: wait, can you go back a little
]))
(;B[qf]))
(;W[np]C[cata [8k\]: n5
]
(;B[mn]C[cata [8k\]: or that
]
;W[mo]C[cata [8k\]: oh, not that then
cata [8k\]: instead of n6
]
;B[kp]
;W[mq]C[cata [8k\]: try n5 after o4
])
(;B[mo]
;W[mn]
;B[kp]C[cata [8k\]: success
])))
(;B[np]C[cata [8k\]: wait
]
;W[mp]
;B[op]
;W[mq]C[cata [8k\]: what if o4 p4?
]
;B[mo]C[cata [8k\]: that defense looks safer
]))
(;W[ol]
;B[np]
(;W[mp]
;B[op]
;W[mq]
;B[mo]C[cata [8k\]: hmm, that is sort of scary
])
(;W[op]
;B[mp]C[cata [8k\]: anyway, n2 gave my corner group time to break out
cata [8k\]: so i was very happy
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: i didn't like the way things were shaping up
cata [8k\]: i wasn't sure who was better off
cata [8k\]: i was eager to invade bottom right corner, though
]
;W[oo]
;B[oq]
;W[pq]C[cata [8k\]: bad for black
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: nice
]))
(;W[np]C[cata [8k\]: i mean if you did not play n2, and then i cut at o4, and you atari with p4 in response
cata [8k\]: then afterward you connect at p5
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yeah, is better... my other thought was to scare your left group, hehehe
cata [8k\]: if i tried then to cut at p3 you can play q3 and capture cutting stone
]))
(;B[op]
;W[np]C[SeoulPhoto [5k\]: this isn't good
]
;B[pn]
;W[po]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[qr]C[cata [8k\]: ok, but this just transposes to what could have happened anyway with q6 first
]
;W[pm]C[cata [8k\]: it's just more committal for black to play p4 first, don't you think?
]
;B[qn]
;W[pl]))
(;B[pq]
;W[no]
;B[om]C[cata [8k\]: white looks so happy now
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: yaeh, that is the other thing 
]))
(;B[kp]BL[1798.841]C[cata [8k\]: whoa
cata [8k\]: misclick
SeoulPhoto [5k\]: have a good game
cata [8k\]: can i get an undo lol
]))
