(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[SungMin]PB[imagine]WR[2d]BR[3k]DT[2010-05-07]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[SungMin [2d\]: hi have a good game
imagine [3k\]: have a nice game
imagine [3k\]: insei league
]RE[W+15.50]
;B[pd]BL[1779.512]C[SungMin [2d\]: i enjoy our games =\]
]
;W[dp]WL[1796.008]
;B[pp]BL[1751.27]
;W[dc]WL[1760.423]
;B[de]BL[1726.719]
;W[dh]WL[1748.555]
(;B[fe]BL[1569.82]C[SungMin [2d\]: i think moving in the corner is a little better though
]
;W[fc]WL[1700.712]
(;B[he]BL[1540.989]
;W[ce]WL[1687.28]
;B[cf]BL[1527.319]
;W[cd]WL[1656.534]
;B[df]BL[1516.846]
;W[qn]WL[1633.375]
;B[ql]BL[1437.526]
;W[on]WL[1621.721]
;B[np]BL[1425.539]
;W[pk]WL[1616.474]C[SungMin [2d\]: bad choice in joseki for me
SungMin [2d\]: i was hoping for a different outcome
]
(;B[qk]BL[1415.396]
;W[pj]WL[1573.519]
;B[pl]BL[1350.367]
;W[ol]WL[1551.814]
;B[qj]BL[1330.513]
;W[pi]WL[1547.827]
;B[qh]BL[1279.042]
;W[og]WL[1519.082]
(;B[qg]BL[1275.401]
;W[om]WL[1512.956]C[SungMin [2d\]: or a direct attack
]
(;B[kq]BL[1235.407]
;W[qq]WL[1490.449]
;B[qp]BL[1125.058]
;W[rp]WL[1487.233]
;B[pq]BL[1121.422]
;W[rr]WL[1483.776]
;B[qr]BL[1119.816]
;W[rq]WL[1482.542]
;B[dj]BL[1032.841]C[imagine [3k\]: was top left always seki or did I miss something?
SungMin [2d\]: but i like this for black too
SungMin [2d\]: yes it was seki, but i almost lost it
SungMin [2d\]: you could have killed it i think
]
;W[cl]WL[1419.599]
(;B[ei]BL[1013.264]
;W[qc]WL[1376.254]
;B[pc]BL[985.375]
;W[qd]WL[1296.794]
;B[qe]BL[904.067]
;W[re]WL[1293.991]
;B[rf]BL[902.749]
;W[pe]WL[1292.32]
;B[qf]BL[901.384]
;W[pb]WL[1290.504]
;B[ob]BL[900.279]
;W[qb]WL[1289.345]
;B[nc]BL[899.395]
;W[sd]WL[1286.778]
;B[hc]BL[792.325]
(;W[oe]WL[1269.209]C[SungMin [2d\]: mistake for me
SungMin [2d\]: i should have fought first and then made that move
]
;B[nd]BL[788.909]
;W[rm]WL[1262.329]
;B[rl]BL[779.604]
;W[fq]WL[1231.554]
;B[bp]BL[617.305]C[SungMin [2d\]: nice move
]
(;W[cq]WL[1178.612]
;B[cn]BL[601.261]
;W[dm]WL[1078.511]
;B[dn]BL[519.296]
;W[en]WL[1060.853]
;B[bl]BL[246.929]
;W[bk]WL[1052.105]
;B[bm]BL[187.605]
;W[ck]WL[1043.917]
;B[bq]BL[179.521]
;W[br]WL[1041.808]
(;B[do]BL[141.531]
;W[eo]WL[1036.534]
;B[cp]BL[138.763]
;W[dq]WL[1029.263]
;B[ar]BL[134.229]
;W[bs]WL[1027.115]
;B[bo]BL[126.905]
;W[iq]WL[1014.441]
;B[ko]BL[112.647]
;W[le]WL[1001.954]
;B[kd]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[gd]WL[973.909]
;B[hd]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ge]WL[972.414]
;B[gf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[hf]WL[970.809]
;B[dd]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[cc]WL[956.621]
;B[eh]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ch]WL[915.291]
;B[bg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[bh]WL[909.758]
;B[be]BL[30]OB[4]
(;W[bd]WL[889.737]
;B[gg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[if]WL[886.305]
;B[ke]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[kf]WL[883.401]
;B[lf]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[je]WL[875.49]
;B[jd]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[me]WL[861.24]
;B[kg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[jf]WL[857.878]
;B[lg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ih]WL[852.808]
;B[hi]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[hh]WL[841.61]
;B[gi]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[gh]WL[839.395]
;B[fh]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ji]WL[836.98]
;B[fl]BL[30]OB[4]C[SungMin [2d\]: this one caught me by surprise a bit
]
;W[el]WL[827.139]
;B[fm]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[em]WL[821.874]
(;B[hl]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ne]WL[807.206]
;B[lj]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[li]WL[804.737]
;B[nj]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mi]WL[800.809]
;B[eb]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ec]WL[795.486]
;B[fb]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[db]WL[793.053]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[fd]WL[791.817]
;B[bb]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[lc]WL[787.633]
;B[ld]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[md]WL[785.813]C[SungMin [2d\]: no not yet
]
;B[mc]BL[30]OB[3]C[imagine [3k\]: now
]
(;W[lb]WL[783.063]C[SungMin [2d\]: white kind of looks dead to me
]
;B[kc]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[mb]WL[776.925]
;B[nb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[id]WL[772.005]
;B[kb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ic]WL[770.028]
;B[ib]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ie]WL[763.352]
;B[jb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fk]WL[757.333]
;B[ek]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[fj]WL[750.893]
;B[gk]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gm]WL[746.368]
;B[hm]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[gn]WL[740.903]
;B[gl]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ri]WL[738.062]C[SungMin [2d\]: bad move for me
SungMin [2d\]: trying ot make ko threats
]
;B[qi]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[rh]WL[736.709]
;B[rj]BL[30]OB[3]
(;W[sk]WL[735.293]
;B[sl]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ea]WL[700.425]
;B[gb]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ae]WL[671.546]
;B[bf]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[eg]WL[618.266]
;B[ef]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dg]WL[612.709]
;B[fg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ik]WL[607.591]
;B[hn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jn]WL[591.911]
;B[ii]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jh]WL[573.012]
;B[jm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[kn]WL[522.766]
(;B[jl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jk]WL[515.443]
(;B[ll]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lp]WL[496.886]
;B[lq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lo]WL[492.103]
;B[mp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ab]WL[486.8]C[SungMin [2d\]: now it has to be a seki or ko because i took away both e19 and A15
]
(;B[ba]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ad]WL[483.751]
;B[bc]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[da]WL[480.751]LB[ab:B][cc:A]C[SungMin [2d\]: here
SungMin [2d\]: You can kill the corner still
SungMin [2d\]: can you see how?
imagine [3k\]: 1 min pls
imagine [3k\]: a17
SungMin [2d\]: while your thinking, just to cap, your overall fuseki was okay
SungMin [2d\]: whenever you're in this situation you have to realize two things
imagine [3k\]: no i cant see how to kill here
SungMin [2d\]: A can be atari'ed regardless of B because A17 separates them
SungMin [2d\]: do you understand what i mean?
imagine [3k\]: yes
SungMin [2d\]: so since that is an atari shape
SungMin [2d\]: pretend the space between A and B doesnt exit
SungMin [2d\]: exist*
SungMin [2d\]: because its a forcing mvoe
SungMin [2d\]: move*
imagine [3k\]: hmmmm
SungMin [2d\]: so A17 isnt really a liberty or a space
SungMin [2d\]: not in this case anyway
SungMin [2d\]: so all black has to do is make a killing shape
imagine [3k\]: c18?
SungMin [2d\]: yes!
SungMin [2d\]: whenever you are in this position, regard A17 as a forcing move and make a killing shape
]
(;B[kj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jj]WL[472.808]
;B[lm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jr]WL[469.657]
;B[jo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[cb]WL[364.267]
;B[ph]BL[30]OB[2]C[SungMin [2d\]: lucky me haha
]
;W[oh]WL[359.36]
;B[oi]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ok]WL[357.561]
;B[ki]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[kh]WL[354.463]
;B[mj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ni]WL[352.646]
;B[oj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[kp]WL[300.93]
;B[jp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ln]WL[258.624]
(;B[jq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mm]WL[249.912]
(;B[kr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ir]WL[247.047]
;B[qo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ro]WL[243.743]
;B[ml]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mn]WL[238.617]
;B[ed]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pr]WL[218.573]
;B[or]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[qs]WL[217.414]
;B[os]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[oo]WL[212.912]
;B[gp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hp]WL[179.682]
;B[ho]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hq]WL[172.694]
;B[fn]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mr]WL[170.987]
;B[nr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[op]WL[167.623]
;B[oq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mq]WL[163.975]
;B[ms]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[dk]WL[132.913]C[SungMin [2d\]: not worth the trade off
]
(;B[io]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ej]WL[127.003]
;B[gj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[di]WL[119.769]
;B[fi]BL[30]OB[2]C[SungMin [2d\]: big mistakes here
]
;W[cj]WL[118.007]
;B[fp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ep]WL[111.84]
;B[gq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[gr]WL[110.966]
;B[fr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[eq]WL[110.359]
;B[gs]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hr]WL[109.682]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[is]WL[98.77]
;B[ks]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[er]WL[97.346]
;B[lh]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mg]WL[86.362]
;B[sm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rn]WL[77.147]
;B[sf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[od]WL[72.268]
;B[sn]BL[30]OB[2]C[SungMin [2d\]: this was petty, dont go for small points
]
;W[oc]WL[69.697]
;B[ma]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fo]WL[60.874]
;B[go]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ps]WL[52.2]
;B[so]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[sp]WL[37.525]
;B[se]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[rd]WL[33.406]
(;B[sj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ga]WL[16.874]
;B[ha]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fa]WL[15.399]
;B[hb]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ac]WL[13.146]
;B[pf]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[no]WL[7.844]C[SungMin [2d\]: good endgame but too early
]
(;B[nq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nl]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[of]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[nf]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hg]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ig]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[pm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pn]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ah]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ai]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ag]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[oa]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[la]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[al]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[am]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[ak]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[nk]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[kk]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[lk]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mh]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[il]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[in]WL[30]OW[4]C[imagine [3k\]: thank you very much 
SungMin [2d\]: thanks for the game
SungMin [2d\]: hope i helped
imagine [3k\]: sure 
imagine [3k\]: next time we will see
imagine [3k\]: bye
imagine [3k\]: :)
SungMin [2d\]: haha =\]
]
;B[ij]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[hk]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[na]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[pa]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[kl]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mf]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[lr]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[fs]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[aq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[cr]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[hj]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jg]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cm]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[mo]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[]WL[30]OW[4]TW[qa][ra][sa][rb][sb][pc][rc][sc][pd][lf][kg][lg][ng][lh][nh][bi][ci][aj][bj][dj][ek][dl][nm][nn][sq][dr][fr][qr][sr][cs][ds][es][gs][hs][rs][ss]TB[ia][ja][ka][lb][mb][lc][ee][ff][rg][sg][rh][sh][ri][si][mk][rk][sk][gm][an][bn][gn][ao][co][ap][mq][mr][ls][ns]C[SungMin [2d\]: thanks
imagine [3k\]: thanks 
SungMin [2d\]: review?
imagine [3k\]: yes pls
])
(;B[kk]
;W[nk]
;B[mk]
;W[km]
;B[kl]
;W[mo]
;B[nq]
;W[po]
;B[lr]
;W[pm]
;B[hg]
;W[ig]
;B[of]
;W[nf]
;B[nl]
;W[nm]))
(;B[fa]
;W[sj]
;B[si]
;W[sh]
;B[sg]
;W[pg]
;B[pf]
;W[of]
;B[pm]
;W[pn]
;B[rg]C[SungMin [2d\]: wouldtnt be that bad
]
;W[qm]
;B[si]C[imagine [3k\]: right
]
;W[ac]
;B[ah]
;W[ai]
;B[ag]
;W[al]
;B[am]
;W[ak]))
(;B[ej]
;W[sm]
;B[sf]
;W[od]
;B[ma]
;W[oc]
;B[cj]
;W[bj]
;B[af]
;W[ac]
;B[fa]))
(;B[hp]))
(;B[mn]
;W[io]
;B[jq]
;W[in]
;B[go]
(;W[fn]
;B[ip]
;W[ho]
;B[hp]
;W[gp]
;B[gq]
;W[fo]
;B[gr]C[SungMin [2d\]: better i suppose
])
(;W[ip]
;B[fn]
(;W[nn])
(;W[kr]
;B[lr]
;W[mo]
;B[or]
;W[qs]
(;B[no])
(;B[nq]
;W[pr]
;B[no]
;W[nn]
;B[mm])))))
(;B[ac]
;W[cb]
;B[ed]
;W[ca]
;B[fa]
;W[aa])
(;B[cb]
;W[fa]
;B[ga]
(;W[af]
;B[ag]
(;W[mj]
;B[ed]C[imagine [3k\]: i see
]
(;W[qm]C[imagine [3k\]: oh
]
;B[ca]
;W[ac]
;B[aa])
(;W[ca]))
(;W[ca]
;B[ed]
;W[ac]))
(;W[ca]
;B[ed]
;W[ac]
;B[af]
;W[aa]
;B[bb]C[SungMin [2d\]: its dead.
SungMin [2d\]: i felt a bit silly to not be able to see that until it was too late... i'm not very good with slow games
])))
(;B[bc]
;W[ba])
(;B[ac]
(;W[bc])
(;W[ad]
;B[aa]
;W[da]
(;B[bc]
;W[cb])
(;B[ab]
(;W[bc])
(;W[cb]
;B[ba])))))
(;B[hp]
;W[hq]
(;B[ln])
(;B[ab])))
(;B[km]C[SungMin [2d\]: better to keep pushing
SungMin [2d\]: white's falling behind in teritory in the corner
SungMin [2d\]: so i'm trying to make up for it
]
;W[ln]
;B[jj]))
(;W[ba]
;B[ab]
;W[da]
;B[ad])
(;W[ab]
(;B[ac]
;W[ad]
;B[aa]
;W[bc]
(;B[ab]
;W[da]
;B[ca])
(;B[da]C[SungMin [2d\]: ko
]))
(;B[ba]
(;W[ad]
;B[da]C[SungMin [2d\]: dead
])
(;W[da]
;B[ad]
;W[ac]
;B[ae]
;W[bc]C[SungMin [2d\]: dead
]))))
(;W[kc]
;B[jc]
;W[jb]C[imagine [3k\]:  is it seki
]))
(;B[ne]
;W[mf]
;B[nf]
;W[mg]
;B[ng]
;W[nh]
;B[of]
;W[ik]
;B[hl]
;W[gb]))
(;W[gg]
;B[ff]
(;W[if]C[SungMin [2d\]: best for me
SungMin [2d\]: but i played an impulsive move instead 
]
;B[bd]
;W[bc]
;B[eb]
;W[ec]
;B[fb]
;W[db]
;B[gc])
(;W[gb]
;B[hb]
;W[if]
;B[bd]
;W[bc]
;B[eb]
;W[ec]
;B[fb]
;W[gc]
;B[ga]
;W[fa]
;B[ha]
;W[db]
;B[ea]
;W[da]
;B[fa]
;W[ba]
;B[gi])))
(;B[em]
;W[do]
;B[dl]
;W[cm])
(;B[cp]
;W[dq]
;B[em]
;W[do]
;B[bo]
;W[el]
;B[fm]
;W[fl]
;B[an]C[SungMin [2d\]: or not lol
]
;W[gm]
;B[fn]
;W[eo]
;B[gn]
;W[hm]
;B[hn]
;W[in]
;B[hp]))
(;W[cp]
;B[bo]
;W[bq]
;B[br]
;W[cq]
;B[dn]
;W[el]
;B[fn]
;W[gl]
(;B[ci]C[SungMin [2d\]: looked worse for me
]
;W[hn]
;B[fp]
;W[gp]
;B[ep]
;W[eq]
;B[go]
;W[ho]
(;B[do])
(;B[bm]
;W[bl]
;B[do]))
(;B[hn]
;W[bh]
;B[ci]
;W[ch]
;B[il]
;W[bj]
;B[dk]
;W[dl]
;B[bi]
;W[ai]
;B[bk])))
(;W[ld])
(;W[jc]
(;B[ic])
(;B[id]
;W[ld]
;B[oe]
;W[mf])))
(;B[ch]
;W[ci]
;B[cj]
(;W[cg]
;B[bh]
;W[bg]
;B[bi]
;W[bf]
;B[dg])
(;W[bh]
;B[cg]
;W[bj]
;B[di]
;W[bi]
;B[nk]
;W[ok]
(;B[ni])
(;B[mc]))))
(;B[qo]C[SungMin [2d\]: maybe this move first would have been a bit more alert
]
(;W[qm]
;B[jq])
(;W[lq]
(;B[ip]
;W[lo]
;B[rn])
(;B[mo])
(;B[cn]
;W[fq]
;B[dj]
;W[lo]
;B[rn])))
(;B[fq]
;W[lq]
;B[jq]
;W[lo]
;B[qo]
;W[rn]
;B[ro]
;W[hq]
;B[fo]
(;W[ip]
;B[dn])
(;W[dn]
;B[ip]C[SungMin [2d\]: not bad 
])))
(;B[qf]C[SungMin [2d\]: better i think
SungMin [2d\]: so i can't invade corner
SungMin [2d\]: this will prevent me from taking that corner
SungMin [2d\]: easily anyway
SungMin [2d\]: but actually
SungMin [2d\]:  i prefer takign the corner
]
(;W[qc]
;B[pc]
;W[qd]
;B[qe]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]C[imagine [3k\]: i see
]
;W[qb]
;B[rd]
;W[nb]
;B[nc]
;W[oa]
;B[oc]
;W[mb]
;B[lc]
;W[lb]
;B[kc]
;W[jb]
;B[jc]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]
;W[ka]
;B[hc]
;W[hb]
;B[nk]
;W[ok]
;B[ni]C[SungMin [2d\]: really thick
])
(;W[om]))
(;B[om]
;W[nm]
;B[pm]
;W[nl]
;B[pn]
;W[qf]
;B[nc]C[SungMin [2d\]: since you have the f15 group
SungMin [2d\]: it kind of makes it easy for you to escape this cut
SungMin [2d\]: its not as effective, and you have a strong bottom right corner
imagine [3k\]: which cut
]
;W[hc]
(;B[pf]
;W[pg]
;B[qg]
;W[pe]
(;B[of]C[SungMin [2d\]: this one
])
(;B[qe]
(;W[nf])
(;W[of]
;B[rf])))
(;B[pg]
;W[pf]
;B[of]C[SungMin [2d\]: complicated fight though
])))
(;B[qo]
;W[qk]
;B[rn]
;W[qm]
;B[rm]
(;W[rl]
;B[qg]
;W[lq]C[SungMin [2d\]: maybe this
])
(;W[nc]
;B[qf])))
(;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[he]
(;W[hc]
;B[cd]
;W[bb])
(;W[cd]
;B[ce]
;W[bc]
(;B[qj])
(;B[ic]))))
(;B[gd]C[SungMin [2d\]: you're not used to this  joseki/
SungMin [2d\]: ?
]
;W[ee]
;B[ef]C[imagine [3k\]: yes
]
;W[fe]
;B[dd]
;W[fc]
;B[cc]
;W[ec]
;B[ff]
;W[ge]
;B[bd]
;W[jd]
;B[lc]))
