(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[WVoron]WR[3p]BR[5d]DT[2011-10-19]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[WVoron [5d\]: удачи
WVoron [5d\]: спасибо)
breakfast [3p\]: смотрим?
roughriver: white is w
WVoron [5d\]: ага
]RE[B+5.50]
;B[qe]BL[1777.928]C[breakfast [3p\]: удачной игры!
]
;W[cp]WL[1784.594]
;B[oq]BL[1764.162]
;W[dc]WL[1771.386]
;B[eq]BL[1751.801]
;W[od]WL[1736.668]
;B[ld]BL[1716.927]
(;W[qd]WL[1676.477]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: i get the feeling b didn't really think that pincer all the way through
dewaigo [-\]: agreed
atlatl [2k\]: thinking is wen you hear voice but dont movin lips
zzzzzzz22 [3k\]: welcome to join our league, if you like to get teaching games too! http://insei-league.com/
Tsuijin [2d\]: i am not so sure hearing voices is ever a good thing
Shinichi56 [-\]: asr league is better
gooooo [?\]: why play weird fuseki if you can't follow it up :)
sh5kv [4d\]: to learn
]
(;B[rd]BL[1505.755]
;W[qc]WL[1620.594]
;B[pe]BL[1499.575]
;W[oe]WL[1601.922]C[gooooo [?\]: better to study such things from books :)
zen [1d\]: better to learn to think for yourself than copy from a book
WVoron [5d\]: ))
]
;B[pg]BL[1422.909]C[phong [1k\]: sure!
Snax [4d\]: understand the book..not copy it
sh5kv [4d\]: also depends on what you mean by better. Perhaps more efficent but maybe black thinks in game is more fun
Tsuijin [2d\]: why not just write the book?
gofly2 [5k\]: i lost my nose
Stevenson [-\]: only amateurs play fancy moves
gofly2 [5k\]: can someone find it for me?
]
;W[nf]WL[1554.227]C[sh5kv [4d\]: check your parent's hands
sh5kv [4d\]: parents'*
gofly2 [5k\]: i found i lost my hands too
breakfast [3p\]: сейчас это в пользу Б
]
;B[hc]BL[1354.583]C[gofly2 [5k\]: go chess was invented by edison
]
;W[qm]WL[1521.29]C[dewaigo [-\]: r4 or r10?
Hernee [3d\]: Studying go from books is something I might never be able to understand :|
Nypsie [2d\]: but why ?
gofly2 [5k\]: kiu lei lo mo
sh5kv [4d\]: Q13 needs the extension more than black needs the corner I think
breakfast [3p\]: непонятно, как отвечать
]
(;B[qp]BL[1257.754]C[sh5kv [4d\]: because now white is pushed into black's weakness
]
;W[qj]WL[1496.391]C[gofly2 [5k\]: no
gofly2 [5k\]: it the opposite
]
;B[rc]BL[1228.051]
;W[nc]WL[1471.038]C[gofly2 [5k\]: on lun 9
breakfast [3p\]: как-то комфортно у Б
]
;B[lb]BL[1197.402]C[Hernee [3d\]: W preparing tortoise shell shape with O17! :O
Tsuijin [2d\]: i am actually not so sure that shape is good mmm
Tsuijin [2d\]: isn't o14 better at P14?
]
;W[rg]WL[1416.414]C[meuns [1d\]: THE MASTER STRIKES BACK
xHikaruGox [3d\]: o14 is super weird
Backflash [10k\]: why? o14 gives one bit more freedom
breakfast [3p\]: очень доволен был
]
;B[oh]BL[1168.481]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: p14 dmgs b shape more
iceweasel [?\]: how does p12 defend against r14?
]
;W[qg]WL[1378.892]C[gofly2 [5k\]: black is having advantage over black
sh5kv [4d\]: o14 puts a touch more pressure on M16 also doesn't as strongly prompt a response from black on top. 
xHikaruGox [3d\]: r14 s14 
gofly2 [5k\]: M16A4
Backflash [10k\]: M4A3E2
gofly2 [5k\]: AUg HBAR
Backflash [10k\]: T20
WVoron [5d\]: ))
WVoron [5d\]: я тоже)
breakfast [3p\]: все живет, очков у Ч нет
breakfast [3p\]: и все мирно
breakfast [3p\]: о как :)
]
;B[pf]BL[1086.908]C[shig [7k\]: B2?
meuns [1d\]: q14 is so painful
gofly2 [5k\]: FAL
meuns [1d\]: s18 ? d5 ? c15 ?
gofly2 [5k\]: b should put a bandage if it feels painful
Backflash [10k\]: does o14 looks weird now?
cata [2k\]: now o14 looks clearly good
meuns [1d\]: yeap
cata [2k\]: imo
]
;W[lf]WL[1281.442]
;B[ob]BL[1065.77]
;W[pb]WL[1221.091]
;B[pd]BL[964.254]
;W[pc]WL[1209.798]
;B[nb]BL[956.322]
;W[oc]WL[1192.286]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: if b does this in gote not sure its worth it...
gofly2 [5k\]: well i  am sure it worths it
]
;B[mh]BL[836.666]
(;W[do]WL[1165.109]C[breakfast [3p\]: тут не уверен
breakfast [3p\]: может надо и ответить
breakfast [3p\]: так чтобы не заблокировали
]
;B[ke]BL[788.098]C[Backflash [10k\]: sneaky sneaky!
Rocker [3d\]: i should ve come early n played breakfast!
]
;W[kf]WL[1068.625]
;B[kh]BL[784.209]
;W[jf]WL[1019.602]C[xHikaruGox [3d\]: you're not good enough...
]
;B[he]BL[736.454]
(;W[ce]WL[996.555]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: urgent moves > big moves
breakfast [3p\]: так что решил опять брать очки
]
;B[ig]BL[727.608]
;W[rb]WL[962.289]C[Backflash [10k\]: he IS the KING!
cata [2k\]: how will he live?
xHikaruGox [3d\]: over
Nypsie [2d\]: interesting to see how w gonna live
Backflash [10k\]: the hell is happend?
cata [2k\]: oh, with n16?
breakfast [3p\]: тенуки лучше всего
]
(;B[sb]BL[685.837]C[cata [2k\]: but it's not enough
LotusMind [12k\]: 1 eye in top right 1 eye with o15?
]
;W[mc]WL[920.663]
;B[mb]BL[676.997]
;W[jd]WL[894.695]C[cata [2k\]: oh boy : D
sisi [11k\]: w has only 2 halfeye
atlatl [2k\]: wait
Rocker [3d\]: i m 1000 times stonger than you Gox 3d!
Nypsie [2d\]: yeah just wait few moves ^^
xHikaruGox [3d\]: no way roCker!
xHikaruGox [3d\]: or should I say...Sucker !
salty [2d\]: oo
salty [2d\]: :-)
largehc [?\]: no you shouldn't
sisi [11k\]: i stringer than u both
]
;B[lc]BL[442.732]C[sisi [11k\]: stronger*
cata [2k\]: b very manly
largehc [?\]: stringer huh
cata [2k\]: what a brave move
Rocker [3d\]: u can destroy you blindfolded!
Rocker [3d\]: i can*
salty [2d\]: lol
largehc [?\]: that's as good as stong
salty [2d\]: hehe
hsng2: lol
]
;W[le]WL[851.281]C[Mokki [-\]: lol, rocker not a real pro
]
;B[kd]BL[434.853]C[seeblick [1d\]: not fair blindfolding someone in order to win
largehc [?\]: i'm the stringest
Billy182 [4k\]: xD
sisi [11k\]: :D
salty [2d\]: rocker for president ^^
dewaigo [-\]: stingray?
Mokki [-\]: but I am the lord of the strings!
Mukti [4d\]: I prefer boxer shorts
Nypsie [2d\]: ^^
temp432: actually, <string.h> is the lord of the strings
xHikaruGox [3d\]: alive
dewaigo [-\]: i prefer g-string
ShinHonaka [1k\]: I prefer no strings attended
LotusMind [12k\]: does n16 give him 2 eyes?
ShinHonaka [1k\]: both pun and no pun intended
temp432: string in general dont attend anything, you can be happy.
ShinHonaka [1k\]: strings *attached*
sisi [11k\]: n16 o15 
]
;W[mg]WL[712.383]C[atlatl [2k\]: white want s sente
justdidit [1k\]: n16 o15 r19 remains a difficult ko
Nypsie [2d\]: can't get it
Mukti [4d\]: Just imagine a 26-dimensional string.
sisi [11k\]: n13 is good
dewaigo [-\]: now only have 3dimension
Mukti [4d\]: This is quite painful for white.
justdidit [1k\]: n13 makes b stronger
]
;B[ni]BL[361.758]C[temp432: nonono main string theory is not 26 dimensions -.-
sisi [11k\]: n13 makes eyes
sisi [11k\]: and this is sente
temp432: w easily alive, w wants sente / some profit...
Taborlin [2k\]: w was never going to die
temp432: if w has gote, then j13 was REALLY painful
]
;W[md]WL[642.61]C[Rocker [3d\]: is breakffast bald by  now?
temp432: is rocker not trolling anymore by now?
temp432: errr wait
]
;B[hp]BL[314.148]C[Rocker [3d\]: i m just curious cuz i m his loya fan
Rocker [3d\]: loyal*
breakfast [3p\]: как оценишь?
breakfast [3p\]: такое чувство, что пропал мой перевес
WVoron [5d\]: у тебя получше
breakfast [3p\]: не факт
breakfast [3p\]: было лучше, но ...
breakfast [3p\]: из-за этой стенки ...
WVoron [5d\]: влияние мое но у тебя надежно
WVoron [5d\]: ))
breakfast [3p\]: мне за Ч нравится сейчас
]
;W[dj]WL[617.884]LB[om:B][pm:C][kp:A]C[temp432: just look at some random recent tournament pic if ur really interested, which i kinda doubt xD
breakfast [3p\]: тут сложно
breakfast [3p\]: надо выбирать
breakfast [3p\]: А, В, С
breakfast [3p\]: что лучше?
WVoron [5d\]: ну я B сыграл
]
(;B[om]BL[260.922]C[zzzzzzz22 [3k\]: welcome to join our league, if you like to get teaching games too! http://insei-league.com/
ShinHonaka [1k\]: I wonder what percentage of the ppl in KGS are guys
Rocker [3d\]: 94%
temp432: 100% cause its teh intrawebs
patcher [1k\]: so lets see how w manage to win this game
temp432: inb4 learn ur rules
ShinHonaka [1k\]: O_O thats so sad.... i wish KGS had a tagging system that identifies all the females lol
]
;W[jq]WL[537.208]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: something like that was probably be illegal
Tsuijin [2d\]: *would probably
ShinHonaka [1k\]: lol
justdidit [1k\]: lol?
temp432: for those cases where its not quite clear, huh?
breakfast [3p\]: в общем не знаю ...
breakfast [3p\]: если не убиваешь ...
breakfast [3p\]: по очкам тяжело будет Черным
]
;B[lq]BL[236.996]
;W[jo]WL[506.515]C[seeblick [1d\]: More recent picture of breakfast: http://pandanet-igs.com/system/photos/118/medium/4qtovx-an0.jpg?1290237072
Syte [?\]: love black's pic
WVoron [5d\]: сложно убить
]
;B[qk]BL[210.163]C[temp432: you should have taken a pic with breakfast on the pc and quickly shopped this game here on it
]
;W[rk]WL[466.701]C[largehc [?\]: you like little girls?
temp432: would have made more people wonder
largehc [?\]: someone call fbi
temp432: #define little
ShinHonaka [1k\]: wahhh thats a girl?
atlatl [2k\]: short
]
;B[hr]BL[178.074]C[Syte [?\]: what? not a guy? i reaaaally like it now
largehc [?\]: i rest my case
Roseah: it looks like 3p is the highest i've seen so far
]
(;W[pk]WL[430.643]C[temp432: but hint hint, his 3p is > other 3p
Rocker [3d\]: th seeblick , hes almost there 
temp432: did i confuse u?
temp432: ^^
Rocker [3d\]: thx*
breakfast [3p\]: подозреваю что медленно слишком
]
;B[in]BL[137.913]
;W[lp]WL[413.396]
(;B[mp]BL[115.555]C[Rocker [3d\]: i think he should stop playing go , that will help it slow down , i think
justdidit [1k\]: cut?
Roseah: is that breakfast's real picture?
temp432: he could just get a wig
temp432: it would help his rank too, imagine playing someone with a giant wig
acidus [8k\]: he likes to use a different persons face
acidus [8k\]: when playing go
acidus [8k\]: its his go face
temp432: man he could intimidate many
acidus [8k\]: when not playing he looks samuel jackson
]
;W[kq]WL[343.507]C[acidus [8k\]: metamorphosis go
breakfast [3p\]: тут мне помог с формой
breakfast [3p\]: глаз появился
WVoron [5d\]: он и так вроде был))
]
;B[lo]BL[107.597]
;W[kp]WL[336.632]C[Metafore [3k\]: The man in the picture is actually Dinerchtein
Sakae [3d\]: when he had hair
acidus [8k\]: sacrifice hai
acidus [8k\]: hair
acidus [8k\]: for quickness
atlatl [2k\]: or elvis
]
;B[mq]BL[75.174]
;W[ln]WL[325.819]C[Roseah: did he afk or is this move really important?
acidus [8k\]: el importante
]
;B[mn]BL[50.263]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: this is like b's last chance to really catchup
Rocker [3d\]: this w shape looks kinda unprofessional to my professional eye
WVoron [5d\]: это да
]
;W[ko]WL[307.4]C[temp432: w lives, w wins, w dies, hard to say.
Tsuijin [2d\]: its a double empty triangle shape =)
temp432: can w die still? i doubt so.
justdidit [1k\]: w took Q9
]
;B[lm]BL[11.779]C[atlatl [2k\]: hearsttack
ThunderGod [5d\]: ilya would kill this..
temp432: Lee Sedol would kill p16 
temp432: but
temp432: thats not the point
temp432: :P
atlatl [2k\]: haerd attack
sisi [11k\]: p16 cant die now
ThunderGod [5d\]: Lee Sedol would die with p16 and still win by 0.5
]
;W[km]WL[252.297]C[Rocker [3d\]: hmm
]
;B[kn]BL[60]OB[5]C[temp432: we need more interesting discussion
Metafore [3k\]: ThunderGod, this is a bit too much ^^
]
;W[jn]WL[235.15]C[Rocker [3d\]: j7
largehc [?\]: rocker, you're so string, tell us what b should play
Metafore [3k\]: so string, lol
Rocker [3d\]: i already did , u r so slow
]
;B[im]BL[60]OB[5]C[Rocker [3d\]: j7 dude , its too obvious
Rocker [3d\]: see?
Syte [?\]: ha
Rocker [3d\]: i m so strong 
acidus [8k\]: yea
sisi [11k\]: u pussy
xio [5k\]: Rocker rocks :)
temp432: err b is losing -.-
Roseah: i havent played an online game of go yet so idk how to see good moves
largehc [?\]: i know, it's a pain to type with this phone
temp432: you see them by waiting for the player to play them and then write them down and claim to be good
temp432: easy as that
]
;W[ln]WL[173.836]C[Rocker [3d\]: sisi ur name suit your character so pproperlyy
Syte [?\]: oooooooohhhhhhhhh
sisi [11k\]: of course
atlatl [2k\]: sissi plays go ?
Roseah: that wasnt very nice
]
;B[mo]BL[60]OB[4]C[sisi [11k\]: This means boobs in my native language
largehc [?\]: tissit
]
;W[ll]WL[138.88]C[LotusMind [12k\]: so, assuming whites shape lives, seems b only has bot right territory?
acidus [8k\]: gongi
Tsuijin [2d\]: yep lotus
sisi [11k\]: but hidden
]
;B[kn]BL[60]OB[4]C[seeblick [1d\]: but w has very little secure territory, too
temp432: if 30-40 pt are little
temp432: then yeessss
]
;W[ip]WL[87.988]C[Syte [?\]: left can be invaded, but very secure, right?
Roseah: was that move to  help start giving eyes to his body?
]
;B[hq]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ln]WL[83.759]C[Roseah: anybody good wanna explain abit whats going on atm 
temp432: white is winning
temp432: end of story
xio [5k\]: w treis to survive
YellowBell [-\]: whites is trying to live
Rocker [3d\]: i m good
illyrio [-\]: b treis to kill
patcher [1k\]: and madde an eye
]
;B[mm]BL[60]OB[4]C[LotusMind [12k\]: w just needs one more eye
YellowBell [-\]: if hedoes the game is a go still if not he loses
Syte [?\]: lol
YellowBell [-\]: and white is in a very bad position
temp432: lawl
YellowBell [-\]: botom line white is not in a good situation : P
]
;W[jl]WL[47.043]C[xio [5k\]: I think it's possible to make another eye for w
temp432: if w loses this i give u teaching game xD
Rocker [3d\]: l9?
YellowBell [-\]: theres only 1 eye right now
sisi [11k\]: 3/4 eye
james012 [5k\]: w wont die
YellowBell [-\]: m2 k2 so theres no eye there
temp432: one eyed dragon out in the open, how can it possibly die
]
;B[hk]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ik]WL[36.686]C[sisi [11k\]: eye will be after w moves j5 or j3 
Roseah: he could pick j3 or j5 and make an eye immediately?
greenbean [2k\]: only amatures die pro's just get eaten
YellowBell [-\]: thats already an eye reseah
temp432: if this dies i call white had a heart attack and his dog continued playing
YellowBell [-\]: theres no need to play moves like j5 or j3
Rocker [3d\]: l9!
bart13 [5k\]: mia
breakfast [3p\]: не убить сейчас, похоже
]
;B[il]BL[60]OB[3]C[WVoron [5d\]: сложно
breakfast [3p\]: как Чо Чикун я стал играть :)
breakfast [3p\]: жадный стал на старости лет :)
breakfast [3p\]: и в командном на че
WVoron [5d\]: ты ко наверху зевнул что-ли или так задумано было?
breakfast [3p\]: тоже все очки забрал и потом выживал
WVoron [5d\]: да ты опасно играешь честно
WVoron [5d\]: на грани
]
;W[jk]WL[14.739]C[Roseah: why do i  get the feeling 10 seconds isnt enough to beat 4mins
]
;B[gl]BL[60]OB[3]C[Taborlin [2k\]: ?
Rocker [3d\]: G8?
Roseah: ooo i didnt realize he had 6 mins left haha
xio [5k\]: if you wanna beat 4 mins you need a solid stick, not 10 secs
]
;W[nk]WL[60]OW[5]C[james012 [5k\]: w want to kill q14 
Backflash [10k\]: stick to destroy the clock?
]
;B[jm]BL[60]OB[3]C[sisi [11k\]: q14 n12 h15 
sisi [11k\]: almost all top b
Rocker [3d\]: its a decision time
Backflash [10k\]: kooo!
Backflash [10k\]: though w can't win it
breakfast [3p\]: можно еще время?
xio [5k\]: not sure if w even needs the ko
patcher [1k\]: can w win if he loses l3 ?
xio [5k\]: yeah, if b's dog continue playing too
illyrio [-\]: no
Backflash [10k\]: if he keeps whole left side would be close i guess
Rocker [3d\]: breakfast trying to distract his oppo with talking
]
;W[li]WL[185.931]C[Tsuijin [2d\]: an ancient strategy by itself
]
;B[lh]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[kn]WL[173.656]C[temp432: black lost, he cannot stop the b2 bomber from forming
]
;B[mk]BL[60]OB[3]C[Rocker [3d\]: brakfast never changed his style by a  bit
Hikaruwaya [2k\]: what's his style?
atlatl [2k\]: hair
way2good [2d?\]: to be good
]
;W[ml]WL[123.985]
;B[nl]BL[60]OB[3]C[acidus [8k\]: hes Ok
Tsuijin [2d\]: be funny if white's style was to skip breakfast
Rocker [3d\]: cut n run
]
;W[ol]WL[101.656]C[Roseah: i did google translate i think breakfast said "you can even time?" idk
]
;B[nm]BL[60]OB[3]C[Backflash [10k\]: wow
Backflash [10k\]: google failed
Roseah: google translate isnt really reliable haha
ScorpianGo [1d\]: maybe he meant add ....
Backflash [10k\]: end of time is near
atarinogo [13k\]: Probably means "you can add time"
KochKoch [6k\]: breakfast asked for more time
sisi [11k\]: yep
]
;W[lk]WL[67.956]C[atarinogo [13k\]: He says that to all his opponents if they are running low on time
]
;B[mj]BL[60]OB[3]C[LotusMind [12k\]: *can you add time
LotusMind [12k\]: -.-
Roseah: o lol
atarinogo [13k\]: Breakfast has more time
atarinogo [13k\]: He is being considerate to his opponent
Rocker [3d\]: g10
LotusMind [12k\]: thats because he asked for it. wvoron gave him 5 min
LotusMind [12k\]: if you didnt notice -.-
Roseah: i see
WVoron [5d\]: .
Backflash [10k\]: =\\ it is
]
;W[ii]WL[60]OW[5]C[Rocker [3d\]: that means a pro begged time addition to an ama!
seeblick [1d\]: don't forget, breakfast has 5 other games to play
atlatl [2k\]: graet man
LotusMind [12k\]: lol or its cuz hes playing 5 other games
Backflash [10k\]: with low kyus
Backflash [10k\]: and 4 d
Kayres [2k\]: j11 exchange?
Backflash [10k\]: and some other dan of unknown number
Bliznab [5k?\]: If you haven't been watching these games, its quit normal that he asks time..
Roseah: i didnt think 5d was considered amateur
temp432: 5s ia amateur
acidus [8k\]: amateur is anyone who doesnt earn money
acidus [8k\]: with it
acidus [8k\]: you cna be stronger than every pro
Backflash [10k\]: nope
temp432: everything that doesnt have a [p\] is amateur
acidus [8k\]: and still be amateur
]
;B[hh]BL[60]OB[2]C[acidus [8k\]: YES
acidus [8k\]: I AM RIGHT
acidus [8k\]: FEAR MY MIGHT OF LOGIC
Hikaruwaya [2k\]: who are you anyway? ^^
xio [5k\]: stop shouting acid
temp432: he is acidus, lord of logic
Backflash [10k\]: woah, i like night kgs, funny people gather
]
;W[jh]WL[60]OW[5]C[Rocker [3d\]: who cares about logic btw
Roseah: its afternoon for me also im not being funny on here :p
acidus [8k\]: professional has the word profession in it isn't that amazing
acidus [8k\]: following an occupation as a means of livelihood or for gain
]
;B[jg]BL[60]OB[2]C[temp432: well slaughter has the word laughter in it, isnt that amazing?
acidus [8k\]: it is
seeblick [1d\]: b missed l11, I think
Hikaruwaya [2k\]: w knows he'll lose this semeai..?
]
;W[hj]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gj]BL[60]OB[2]C[acidus [8k\]: if someone pays a 1k to play they are a pro player
]
;W[hi]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gi]BL[60]OB[2]C[acidus [8k\]: they might not be elite but they're pro
]
;W[ki]WL[60]OW[5]C[temp432: err, no
acidus [8k\]: yep
temp432: no because ni
acidus [8k\]: sorry its counterintuitive
acidus [8k\]: but its etymology
TBGH [5k\]: so what's the best way to reduce left here
]
;B[ng]BL[60]OB[2]C[temp432: your argument is invalid, my gair is a helicopter
temp432: *hair
Roseah: acidus, go seigen was the best player of all time and he played many games for no money
acidus [8k\]: but he played some for money
acidus [8k\]: right
Roseah: stop being unreasonalbe
temp432: cool i am pro
acidus [8k\]: that makes him a pro player
]
;W[qa]WL[60]OW[5]C[acidus [8k\]: and also a powerful player
Syte [?\]: he also beat the highest ranked players in the world
temp432: [Pro\]: acidus, please have respect when talking to me, im not a pro
TBGH [5k\]: he's technically correct, the best kind of correct
Bliznab [5k?\]: To acquire professional status, you have to get the diploma through the organisation that is giving them.
acidus [8k\]: you can be powerful without earning money for it
]
;B[of]BL[60]OB[2]C[atlatl [2k\]: better play go for money than other things
cata [2k\]: acidus we use pro to refer to professionals certified by several national go associations
cata [2k\]: it's a term of art
Roseah: acidus you dont have a valid argument anyways because you are fighting over the english language
]
;W[fk]WL[60]OW[5]C[acidus [8k\]: no actually
illyrio [-\]: also being profesional means you make a living through playing go, not that yo get paid occasionaly
Legatus7 [8k\]: go "pro" is a title not a profession -.-
acidus [8k\]: if you refer to professionals certified by national go associations
]
;B[gk]BL[60]OB[2]LB[ra:1][sa:2][sc:3]C[Syte [?\]: is that like saying you're a professional writer  because youve written a book and not published it?
Legatus7 [8k\]: so now you can troll somewhere else
Backflash [10k\]: in go pro status is part of ranking system, more than term
acidus [8k\]: then the 5d is not a pro
temp432: he has no valid argument because my hair is a helicopter
xio [5k\]: w looks alive in gote
cata [2k\]: no, the 5d is not a pro, why would you imagine him to be
breakfast [3p\]: ко там 3 раза надо выиграть, да?
WVoron [5d\]: или сейчас не хватает?))
breakfast [3p\]: не прямое оно
breakfast [3p\]: 3 хода
breakfast [3p\]: чтобы убить
breakfast [3p\]: но я согласен,
breakfast [3p\]: отвечать надо было
breakfast [3p\]: я пожадничал опять
breakfast [3p\]: не люблю в нейтральные играть
]
(;W[gc]WL[60]OW[5]C[acidus [8k\]: someone asked if 5d was pro
acidus [8k\]: and i said no pro, is profession
Syte [?\]: screw go, how do you become a professional terrorist?
Roseah: we started this argument cuz 5d isnt amateur
acidus [8k\]: mercenary
xio [5k\]: in go you're a pro if you passed the pro exam period
Tsuijin [2d\]: u can pass other ways now
temp432: easy, strap bombs around your chest and cry allah akbar
acidus [8k\]: yes and hte pro exam is for profession related go
WVoron [5d\]: ))
breakfast [3p\]: хотел тут йосе сначала
breakfast [3p\]: и только потом выжить :)
]
;B[gb]BL[60]OB[2]C[cata [2k\]: well roseah you can use the word to mean whatever you please
acidus [8k\]: thats not professional isnt it
cata [2k\]: but nobody else will know what you are talking about if you say a 5d amateur is a pro
acidus [8k\]: you could volunteer your bombing
Bliznab [5k?\]: Too many trolls here again
temp432: trol?
acidus [8k\]: i guess the oxford dictionary is a troll
]
;W[gd]WL[60]OW[5]C[acidus [8k\]: anything thats wrong and not my opinion
acidus [8k\]: is a troll
Roseah: poor people who come just to watch go not to argue
cata [2k\]: the oxford dictionary is not a dictionary of go terms
breakfast [3p\]: слишком нагло?
WVoron [5d\]: жаден))
]
;B[hd]BL[60]OB[2]C[Rocker [3d\]: is breakfast overplaying now
acidus [8k\]: if they are just watching they arent reading the text
acidus [8k\]: dont have to worry
Roseah: everyone stop talking please unless its about the game happening now
mgelo [2k?\]: W seems in great shape
]
;W[fb]WL[60]OW[5]
(;B[ne]BL[60]OB[2]C[mgelo [2k?\]: except this ko
Backflash [10k\]: what game? w won
xio [5k\]: w won?
xio [5k\]: doesn't b l8 kill?
]
;W[mf]WL[60]OW[5]C[cata [2k\]: no, how could that kill
illyrio [-\]: no
temp432: yes l8 kills the three eyed dragon
Taborlin [2k\]: ...
cata [2k\]: w has a huge eyespace
mgelo [2k?\]: K4 eye
]
;B[oa]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[pa]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ra]BL[60]OB[2]C[Kayres [2k\]: this ko is too hard for black to win
Backflash [10k\]: l8 as spear of destiny!
guiguistar [3d\]: weird w
mgelo [2k?\]: b wasted P 19 as ko threat?
]
;W[sa]WL[60]OW[5]C[mgelo [2k?\]: no
Volpe [10k\]: Kill what
xio [5k\]: ah, sorry forgot w only needs 1 i
BlueSpark [5k\]: it couldnt be win at ll
BlueSpark [5k\]: all
MicMac [1d\]: i can't win but can have some compensation
]
(;B[ih]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ji]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ra]BL[60]OB[2]C[james012 [5k\]: s15?
mgelo [2k?\]: S14
patcher [1k\]: k15
MicMac [1d\]: k15?
papaplum [4k\]: impossible to win ... or almost
]
;W[hb]WL[60]OW[5]C[arrech [9k\]: killlll
patcher [1k\]: ok , k15 sucks
test007 [3d\]: k15
Backflash [10k\]: nope ignored
patcher [1k\]: no ?
temp432: white is funneh
acidus [8k\]: now is good
temp432: he is making fool of all obs
temp432: :D
Typhon [1d\]: impossible
MicMac [1d\]: still ko
Rocker [3d\]: tenuki!
LotusMind [12k\]: he might try to kill m18 shape?
temp432: "how to play ko threads and gain points" ^^
seeblick [1d\]: b can't t19, so it is still ko, even if b ignores
bucknasty [6k\]: Why not r18
WVoron [5d\]: перепутал
]
;B[ib]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[sa]WL[60]OW[5]C[Rocker [3d\]: b need to show his anger to breakfast at certain point 
Greyish [2d\]: still ko with naother step
Kayres [2k\]: i think with this ko he did
Roseah: cant do r18 now yet
]
;B[dm]BL[60]OB[1]C[Backflash [10k\]: answered...hm
breakfast [3p\]: отвечать не могу
]
;W[sc]WL[60]OW[5]C[Rocker [3d\]: d7 should ve been c12 i think
arrech [9k\]: ja
breakfast [3p\]: как оценишь сейчас?
]
;B[cr]BL[60]OB[1]C[Typhon [1d\]: game set match
papaplum [4k\]: l13
sisi [11k\]: l13 ?
indianayk [4d\]: since b needs to win the ko twice, j18 was necessary
Backflash [10k\]: why, c4 easier to atack
breakfast [3p\]: ты 2 хода получил,
breakfast [3p\]: я -йосе немного
WVoron [5d\]: зависит от борьбы снизу
breakfast [3p\]: 2 хода слева важнее
breakfast [3p\]: тут не спорю
breakfast [3p\]: зря я на ко пошел
WVoron [5d\]: это понятно)
]
;W[em]WL[60]OW[5]C[BlueSpark [5k\]: feel the might of my ko-threat! - whaat? ignored??
bucknasty [6k\]: gg black
]
;B[el]BL[60]OB[1]C[sisi [11k\]: looks like q15 could die
Rocker [3d\]: cut
]
;W[dl]WL[60]OW[5]C[Phage [1d\]: can w cut and kill b?
Rocker [3d\]: i m good
]
;B[cm]BL[60]OB[1]C[Roseah: q15 looks ok for now
mythical [1k\]: no , you are getting bad
]
;W[cl]WL[60]OW[5]C[Thale [3k\]: 3d are baby players
Rocker [3d\]: dun be jealous
grrr [13k?\]: In case anyone doesn't know breakfast has a set of 20 problems called play baduk.org
]
;B[bl]BL[60]OB[1]C[mythical [1k\]: werent you 4d?
mythical [1k\]: :)
Rocker [3d\]: i m 99d in real strength
]
;W[bk]WL[60]OW[5]C[Thale [3k\]: 3k are almost pro players
]
;B[bm]BL[60]OB[1]C[Rocker [3d\]: 9d*
zzzzzzz22 [3k\]:  welcome to join our league, if you like to get teaching games too! http://insei-league.com/
guiguistar [3d\]: b ambitious there
]
;W[en]WL[60]OW[5]C[edikar [8k\]: 100d
mythical [1k\]: i think 2d is the next stop for you rock
]
;B[ck]BL[60]OB[1]C[Roseah: why did b c9
Volpe [10k\]: he wants to win
mythical [1k\]: c 9 is interesting
BlueSpark [5k\]: he doestnt want to resign)
bucknasty [6k\]: He dreams of eyes
]
;W[dk]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[cj]BL[60]OB[1]C[Roseah: he is throwing away pieces now
]
;W[di]WL[60]OW[4]C[Rocker [3d\]: mythical this is why u r stuck at 1k despit numerous lessons from me
Rocker [3d\]: despite*
]
;B[bj]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[fl]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[ch]BL[60]OB[1]C[roughriver: cannot kill p14
mythical [1k\]: call me crasy but black just made life here
mgelo [2k?\]: if I took any lessons from you I'd slip to DDK
breakfast [3p\]: много отдал в итое
breakfast [3p\]: итоге*
breakfast [3p\]: но живой
]
;W[gm]WL[60]OW[4]C[salty [2d\]: rofl
Rocker [3d\]: u r now ddk gelo 
salty [2d\]: hoho
patcher [1k\]: is w ahead ?
BlueSpark [5k\]: w wants to call ajies to life
bucknasty [6k\]: Of course
mythical [1k\]: it werent even lesson , just blitz
WVoron [5d\]: да
]
(;B[gn]BL[60]OB[1]C[Roseah: judging by moves alone white is in charge
]
;W[ga]WL[60]OW[4]C[Roseah: i think they both know white is in the lead
Volpe [10k\]: b is obviously ahead by 50
breakfast [3p\]: огромный ход был ...
breakfast [3p\]: еще и ответил
WVoron [5d\]: сенте
breakfast [3p\]: не факт, что нужно
]
(;B[jc]BL[60]OB[1]C[bucknasty [6k\]: Lol
bucknasty [6k\]: 10k
BlueSpark [5k\]: hmm, was it whole j13  threat?
Volpe [10k\]: lol 6k
]
;W[dq]WL[60]OW[4]C[Backflash [10k\]: woah 3d!
atlatl [2k\]: the duobble sente 100 moves behind
Rocker [3d\]: every game i play has the same or bigger effect on my oppos than lessons , cuz my moves dont talk , they shout
bucknasty [6k\]: 50 what? Lol
]
;B[dr]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ep]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[fq]BL[60]OB[1]C[Volpe [10k\]: it was a joke -.- se never lies
bart13 [5k\]: 50 yes lol 6k
haltija [1k\]: s15 seems big
BlueSpark [5k\]: do they shout 'what are ya doooing?' :D
]
;W[ro]WL[60]OW[4]C[bucknasty [6k\]: 50 high fives
breakfast [3p\]: сейчас у Б больше похоже
breakfast [3p\]: в йосе я потом неаккуратно играл
]
;B[qo]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[rn]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[bf]BL[60]OB[1]C[roughriver: action!
BlueSpark [5k\]: SE thinks game's over for w :)
bart13 [5k\]: i bet on +32.5
Backflash [10k\]: it sort of close
sisi [11k\]: se better than 3p
Rocker [3d\]: b is not bad for a 5d
qp [6k?\]: breakfast pic looks like he sleeping
BlueSpark [5k\]: he is in a deep thinking trance! :)
Shinichi56 [-\]: close game
Loverboy [5k\]: he's thinking about breakfast
Polonaise [4d\]: ｓ４　Ｂｉｇ
Rocker [3d\]: it seems close
papaplum [4k\]: is s3 possible ?
MicMac [1d\]: b15 looks bigger
]
;W[be]WL[60]OW[2]C[patcher [1k\]: s4 ?
Polonaise [4d\]: Ｆｏｒ　ｂ．
]
;B[cf]BL[60]OB[1]C[Shinichi56 [-\]: s3 bigger?
patcher [1k\]: ah ok
Backflash [10k\]: s3 for w
Rocker [3d\]: 5d fighting decent vs breakfast
Roseah: this might end up turning into a really even game
mgelo [2k?\]: you taught him well Rock
Roseah: b has saved most of his pieces 
]
;W[cq]WL[53.894]
;B[de]BL[60]OB[1]C[mgelo [2k?\]: from back when he played chess
bart13 [5k\]: how much handicap stones must have this game in normal mode?
Roseah: doesnt look like much capturing will be done
mgelo [2k?\]: breakfast is about 7d
harlej9 [4k?\]: at least 4 ha stones Bart
bart13 [5k\]: 3p=7d??
qp [6k?\]: really?
acidus [8k\]: p isnt rank
]
;W[dd]WL[60]OW[5]C[qp [6k?\]: 2k talking out oh hat
]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[1]C[Polonaise [4d\]: No way breakfast could give b 4 stones.
Polonaise [4d\]: And win, that is.
rendarkas: good luck !!!
bart13 [5k\]: ok
harlej9 [4k?\]: u shdnt judge by a 1 game
qp [6k?\]: to be fair, this is simul. W had severalgames going at once
bart13 [5k\]: 3p is like 9d then
Shinichi56 [-\]: you shoudn't judge
mgelo [2k?\]: he's a bit stronger than Cornel, and Cornel is weak 7d
]
;W[bd]WL[60]OW[5]C[Polonaise [4d\]: No one is judging.
]
;B[ad]BL[60]OB[1]C[Roseah: w has his corner
pinkfloyd [2k\]: can not compare with cornel
temp432: white is not 9d.
Polonaise [4d\]: You think breakfast is same level as milanmilan, smartrobot and so on?
temp432: white is approx KGS 7-8d
Taborlin [2k\]: dinerchtein has beaten o rissei
harlej9 [4k?\]: acctually speaking about breakfast his title is not a honour one, he's earned it
zife [-\]: breakfast is weaker than roln these days, as far as I can tell
zife [-\]: and roln is 8d
Polonaise [4d\]: Exactly.
celestial [?\]: i beaten o rissei to!
Syte [?\]: white is 3p
celestial [?\]: with a stone!
]
;W[ac]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[af]BL[60]OB[1]C[Syte [?\]: he can eat all of us for...breakfast
mgelo [2k?\]: aguilar has beaten some pros, and he's only 6d now
breakfast [3p\]: все, все сыграл
breakfast [3p\]: спс за время
]
;W[bc]WL[60]OW[4]C[qp [6k?\]: i wonder what happens if you put all the cookies on the table, and not play games on kgs which have no consequence
]
;B[bo]BL[49.649]C[breakfast [3p\]: тебе тоже добавил
]
;W[co]WL[60]OW[4]C[WVoron [5d\]: спасибо))
pinkfloyd [2k\]: b resings
bucknasty [6k\]: I like cookies
bart13 [5k\]: so much diferent thought, doesn t exist an oficial level?
Artevelde [1d\]: WVoron says "thanks"
mgelo [2k?\]: so did anyone count?
Visionaire [1d\]: e15 or s4 looks big
Artevelde [1d\]: that's the only russian I know
BlueSpark [5k\]: it seams left areas exchange is for the benefit of b...
bart13 [5k\]: like 1p=5d for exemple
KochKoch [6k\]: breakfrast says he finished his games, thx for the time, i gave u some time too
temp432: new 1p = KGS 10d
]
;B[rp]BL[9.352]C[temp432: old 1p = KGS 7d
Polonaise [4d\]: Yea, korean 1p too strong.
temp432: a new korean pro will likely be among top5 of KGS
bart13 [5k\]: so, 5p=15d!!?
]
;W[df]WL[60]OW[4]C[LotusMind [12k\]: arent inesi like 7-8d?
bucknasty [6k\]: Lol
temp432: there is a closer range between p ranks
]
;B[rf]BL[60]OB[5]C[temp432: around 3 p  ranks is a d rank
pinkfloyd [2k\]: a 1p can give 2 stones to 9d kgs easly
Melonbread [4d\]: pro just wanna make sure they win, like breakfast 3p here , he likes giving light handicap
edikar [8k\]: breakfast is korean pro ^_^
bart13 [5k\]: oh, ok
temp432: but its hard to judge, as they are awarded as titles
Polonaise [4d\]: Na Hyun korean 1p got into top 4 of the samsung cup, defeating Kong Jie 9p.
]
;W[dg]WL[60]OW[4]C[Artevelde [1d\]: the only sentence I would combine breakfast and "weak" for = "breakfast is NOT weak"
temp432: breakfast is korean honorary pro
]
;B[cg]BL[60]OB[5]C[Syte [?\]: woah
]
;W[sd]WL[60]OW[4]C[qp [6k?\]: honoray 3p??
pinkfloyd [2k\]: there is no difference between 1p and 9p
temp432: he is surely not weak, same as KGS 7-8d is not weak
]
;B[re]BL[60]OB[5]C[Melonbread [4d\]: honorary or tempory ? temp432? ^^
temp432: honorary
domdoom [2k\]: woron is strong!
bart13 [5k\]: are you sure pinkfloyd?
pinkfloyd [2k\]: yes
Melonbread [4d\]: sound like tempory
temp432: pink there certainly is.
Syte [?\]: yes there is. Kong Jie was just drunk.
]
;W[br]WL[60]OW[4]C[Melonbread [4d\]: sound like honorary 17k or so 
qp [6k?\]: lol
Polonaise [4d\]: Yea, and the rest of the 6-9ps that Na Hyun beat too.
]
;B[bp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[cs]WL[60]OW[4]C[Rocker [3d\]: w is leadng by 2.5 according to my micro precise estimte 
]
;B[er]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bq]WL[60]OW[4]C[Artevelde [1d\]: iming for g12
Syte [?\]: gotta look up those games
Backflash [10k\]: ois it yose?
edikar [8k\]: honorary 17k is very strong!
]
;B[ff]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[fe]WL[60]OW[4]C[mgelo [2k?\]: my cat is honorary 17j
Rocker [3d\]: the komi is 6.5 right?
BlueSpark [5k\]: elite 17k?
temp432: my cat is stronger than kong jie
edikar [8k\]: 17j? :)
Backflash [10k\]: no
mgelo [2k?\]: the joke does not work with typos
Backflash [10k\]: komi is 0.5
temp432: scratch him once he will forfeit :P
]
;B[qn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pm]WL[60]OW[4]
;B[pn]BL[60]OB[5]C[pinkfloyd [2k\]: isnt l13 important?
Backflash [10k\]: looks like b is wining
Backflash [10k\]: eeeh..
mgelo [2k?\]: B can get 2 eyes locally
temp432: pink: r12 s12 r11 s11 q10 r8 p10 
Artevelde [1d\]: what is he wining about?
Rocker [3d\]: with 0.5 komi , this game is won by b
BlueSpark [5k\]: doutful
otariana [6k\]: i would sayt the same for l13
bart13 [5k\]: because white try to win with 0.5...
Rocker [3d\]: b by 3.5
seeblick [1d\]: j14 will decide
nat1dpm [9k\]: G14
zen [1d\]: better to force b to play l13 himself, since it's not worth any points
]
;W[qh]WL[60]OW[3]C[mgelo [2k?\]: q11 makes 2 eyes
Roseah: b4 and b7 look dead
]
;B[oj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ok]WL[60]OW[3]C[test007 [3d\]: L13 is clear
Artevelde [1d\]: interesting roseah
Rocker [3d\]: connect
Artevelde [1d\]: C11?
Artevelde [1d\]: then B12
Artevelde [1d\]: then B6?
]
;B[ph]BL[60]OB[4]C[Rocker [3d\]: L13
Rocker [3d\]: oh
]
;W[kg]WL[60]OW[3]C[temp432: that was slightly weird by b
otariana [6k\]: too late
mgelo [2k?\]: now G12 works
bart13 [5k\]: can make an eye with q11
Msha [3k\]: n11
Msha [3k\]: )
MicMac [1d\]: o11
Rocker [3d\]: q11?
temp432: that lost quite many points
]
;B[pi]BL[60]OB[4]C[MicMac [1d\]: n11*
]
;W[if]WL[60]OW[3]C[seeblick [1d\]: j14 decides.... w wins
]
;B[fh]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[hg]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[gh]BL[60]OB[4]C[Msha [3k\]: wth is b doing?
]
;W[id]WL[60]OW[3]C[TBGH [5k\]: why not g13 for black instead of f12
Rocker [3d\]: plaing go!
Rocker [3d\]: playing*
Polonaise [4d\]: B shouldn't have missed L13.
Msha [3k\]: l13 was passive
harry10k [6k\]: h14
seeblick [1d\]: ye, L13 was key to all b problems now
Msha [3k\]: he wanted to save points at o12
]
;B[hf]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ic]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[4]C[bucknasty [6k\]: O no
MicMac [1d\]: l13 was passive but with q12 black take 2 points, white get allready moere in 16 area
Artevelde [1d\]: j2?
mgelo [2k?\]: no problems
]
;W[lr]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[mr]BL[60]OB[4]C[bucknasty [6k\]: Close to problems
]
;W[kr]WL[60]OW[3]C[Rocker [3d\]: i dun think mr breakfast see much prooblem in b either
xio [5k\]: looks whomever plays better yose will win'
Roseah: r12 looks dead
]
;B[sg]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[sh]WL[60]OW[3]C[TBGH [5k\]: it's not
cata [2k\]: really?  i can't see how
mgelo [2k?\]: psych!
Msha [3k\]: r11
Roseah: r11 is where w needs togo
]
;B[qi]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ri]WL[60]OW[3]C[atlatl [2k\]: dead is dead
bucknasty [6k\]: Alive is almost dead
MicMac [1d\]: q10 double sente?
]
;B[hm]BL[60]OB[4]C[Roseah: h7 is nice:)
]
;W[ms]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ns]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ls]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[nr]BL[60]OB[4]C[TBGH [5k\]: i'm surprised no one has taken the points at t3-t5 in sente
Polonaise [4d\]: That kind of yose always painful.
Schwippi [8k\]: j5?
appelsap [7k\]: surprise surprise
seeblick [1d\]: w cannot t4 so there is no hurry for b
mgelo [2k?\]: T4 is W gote
]
;W[fn]WL[60]OW[3]C[TBGH [5k\]: oh right
]
;B[fm]BL[60]OB[4]C[mgelo [2k?\]: or actually suicide
]
;W[ci]WL[60]OW[3]C[xio [5k\]: why can't w t4?
]
;B[bi]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[gm]WL[60]OW[3]C[bart13 [5k\]: because it s gote
bucknasty [6k\]: it dies at s7
kumquat [6k?\]: shortage of liberties
Volpe [10k\]: s7
appelsap [7k\]: t4 is dead
Roseah: ye
Artevelde [1d\]: b12 is interesting
mgelo [2k?\]: 10k is strong ;0
Syte [?\]: wow, even i knew that one
]
;B[dh]BL[60]OB[4]C[Msha [3k\]: t5 is good for b?
bucknasty [6k\]: xio vs volpe :)
seeblick [1d\]: g5
Roseah: msha no t5 will kill it
vasilisk [1k\]: t5 t4 s7 b has sente 
Arhiman [2d\]: e15
]
;W[ef]WL[60]OW[3]C[xio [5k\]: s7 t7?
Msha [3k\]: g5 
]
;B[eg]BL[60]OB[4]C[mgelo [2k?\]: B1 makes 2nd eye
]
;W[ee]WL[60]OW[3]C[bucknasty [6k\]: xio... t4 y3 if t5 s7
bucknasty [6k\]: not y3 t3
bucknasty [6k\]: it loses sente
xio [5k\]: ok, thx
MicMac [1d\]: y3 loose sente for sure
Arhiman [2d\]: g15 is quite big
bucknasty [6k\]: lol
]
;B[gf]BL[60]OB[3]C[seeblick [1d\]: even se has w ahead now
]
;W[go]WL[60]OW[3]C[barakeel [3d\]: how can white be ahead
]
;B[ho]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[hn]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[io]BL[60]OB[3]C[Volpe [10k\]: se changed its mind
]
;W[ir]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[gn]BL[60]OB[3]C[xio [5k\]: se a bit wrong here
Roseah: thats that
bucknasty [6k\]: progs suck
mgelo [2k?\]: W+10
]
;W[sf]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[fo]BL[60]OB[3]C[roughriver: still going. what's da score?
Shinichi56 [-\]: yeah w+ 10
]
;W[hn]WL[60]OW[3]C[MicMac [1d\]: why not q10? looks like a double sente now
xio [5k\]: q10 
roughriver: tx goodtry by b then
]
;B[rm]BL[60]OB[3]C[bucknasty [6k\]: that might help white
]
;W[rl]WL[60]OW[3]C[Roseah: s7 threw away his piece43
]
;B[gn]BL[60]OB[3]C[Roseah: piece*
edikar [8k\]: ?
Msha [3k\]: hm, b could play t15, good one
barakeel [3d\]: t7
roughriver: will dinnerchtein comment on the game afterward?
mgelo [2k?\]: they say "Stone" in Go
]
;W[fp]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[gp]BL[60]OB[3]C[mgelo [2k?\]: but isn't really S7 losing a stone?
]
;W[se]WL[60]OW[3]C[bucknasty [6k\]: i thinks so
]
;B[ei]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[hs]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[gs]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[is]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ds]BL[60]OB[3]C[seeblick [1d\]: no, after s7 w has to t7 - so that makes it even
]
;W[bs]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[pj]BL[60]OB[3]C[mgelo [2k?\]: Diner has no more games left, can concentrate on this one
]
;W[ql]WL[60]OW[3]C[bart13 [5k\]: why not B b1 before?
]
;B[lj]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[kj]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ap]BL[60]OB[3]C[bucknasty [6k\]: i think white had to anyway though
Roseah: r8 and s5 are both one and alive
bart13 [5k\]: he could kill the corner eye...no?
TBGH [5k\]: ty roseah
bart13 [5k\]: with b1
appelsap [7k\]: I agree with SE
]
;W[sp]WL[60]OW[3]C[Volpe [10k\]: se isnt giving b the left side though
]
;B[sq]BL[60]OB[3]C[mgelo [2k?\]: b1 f7 miai
Hipcio [3d\]: wot?
Roseah: lost sente hehe
goword [2k\]: ?
pinkfloyd [2k\]: w lost 1 point here
barakeel [3d\]: can make a ko
Nickless [-\]: no he didnt pinkfloyd
mgelo [2k?\]: 10k > 3p ;0
bart13 [5k\]: na yes mgelo of course
MrTenuki [-\]: Is White trying to win by 0.5 points?
seeblick [1d\]: doesn't lose a point
roughriver: no same 
Syte [?\]: that would be great
roughriver: wait a minutte
mgelo [2k?\]: yeah the same
]
;W[mi]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[so]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[sm]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[nj]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[fm]WL[60]OW[2]C[indianayk [4d\]: b is ahead slightly
Roseah: i was wrong about r12
]
;B[ia]BL[60]OB[3]C[CarGo [11k\]: now what was w t4 good for?
Volpe [10k\]: b+4.5?
zen [1d\]: you were wrong about almost everything, roseah :)
]
;W[ha]WL[60]OW[2]C[bucknasty [6k\]: lol
]
;B[aq]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[ar]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[cn]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[fj]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[ej]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[ek]WL[60]OW[2]C[Roseah: :/ meh we'll see how it goes
]
;B[fi]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[eo]WL[60]OW[2]C[qp [6k?\]: but roseah is seemingly serious, even if wrong.
]
;B[go]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[sn]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[sp]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[me]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[iq]BL[60]OB[3]C[MicMac [1d\]: j3
breakfast [3p\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: забыл
Shinichi56 [-\]: lol
TBGH [5k\]: gave a point there
]
;W[jp]WL[60]OW[2]C[bart13 [5k\]: i don t understand breackfeast
]
;B[nh]BL[60]OB[3]C[KochKoch [6k\]: "yes forgot"
bart13 [5k\]: could you translate?
]
;W[]WL[60]OW[2]C[barakeel [3d\]: w+0.5 soon
]
;B[]BL[60]OB[3]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ra][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][gb][qb][sb][cc][ec][fc][cd][ed][fd][nd][de][ne][sg][rh][si][ij][jj][rj][sj][kk][qk][sk][el][kl][pl][sl][rm][dp][jr][as][js][ks]TB[ja][ka][la][ma][na][kb][kc][ag][bg][fg][gg][hg][og][ah][bh][eh][ai][oi][aj][ak][bk][al][hl][am][an][bn][hn][nn][on][ao][no][oo][po][np][op][pp][gq][nq][pq][qq][rq][fr][gr][or][pr][qr][rr][sr][es][fs][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[xtofplayer [4k\]: gg for b
Shinichi56 [-\]: GG
TBGH [5k\]: nice
davideo [2k\]: tutroing game
davideo [2k\]: tutoring game
xio [5k\]: good game everyone!
qp [6k?\]: bravo
waretsuyla [2k\]: wow
thesirjay [16k\]: gratswv :)
bart13 [5k\]: not far Volpe
breakfast [3p\]: коми неправильное?
SergeLama [4k\]: ...
seeblick [1d\]: *APPLAUSE* for both
waretsuyla [2k\]: gg
grrr [13k?\]: lovely game
breakfast [3p\]: ты в супергруппе уже?
atarinogo [13k\]: great game
HappyLook [-\]: да
Schwippi [8k\]: gg
HappyLook [-\]: Саша выиграл 0.5
HappyLook [-\]: :)
atarinogo [13k\]: bravo for black
roughriver: translation?
gooooo [?\]: wvoron, learnt a lot? :)
qQQp [-\]: Oliver Twist won
WVoron [5d\]: ты же ставил
edikar [8k\]: heh there was no komi :)))
SergeLama [4k\]: they talk about komi
SergeLama [4k\]: lol 
breakfast [3p\]: получается +0.5 за Белых
SergeLama [4k\]: he thought komi was 6.5 
])
(;B[bf]C[breakfast [3p\]: а что будет?
WVoron [5d\]: к18
breakfast [3p\]: \\все живет там
]
;W[jb]
;B[jc]
;W[ia]C[breakfast [3p\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: йосе
breakfast [3p\]: неприятно, конечно
WVoron [5d\]: очков вообще не осталось
breakfast [3p\]: но выешьжить - выжив
breakfast [3p\]: сорри
breakfast [3p\]: выживешь
]))
(;B[ha]C[WVoron [5d\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: если успеешь тут
breakfast [3p\]: то твоя победа
]
;W[ss]
;B[eb]C[WVoron [5d\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: хорошая партия была, получил удовольствие
WVoron [5d\]: поторопился 
WVoron [5d\]: спасибо))
breakfast [3p\]: до встречи!
WVoron [5d\]: взаимно
WVoron [5d\]: пока
]))
(;B[lj]
;W[kj]
;B[kl]
;W[kk]
;B[ji]C[breakfast [3p\]: последовательность
breakfast [3p\]: +1 ко угроза
Rocker [3d\]: dinerstein for the president of Russian Federation!
WVoron [5d\]: да знаю
]))
(;B[hb]
;W[ra]C[breakfast [3p\]: так планировал
]))
(;W[ra]
;B[cl]C[WVoron [5d\]: в смысле 3?
]))
(;B[mq]
;W[km]
;B[ln]C[breakfast [3p\]: если убивать -
breakfast [3p\]: то как-то так
breakfast [3p\]: шанс есть убить, похоже
]))
(;W[in]C[breakfast [3p\]: должен так?
breakfast [3p\]: что было справа?
breakfast [3p\]: покажешь?
breakfast [3p\]: поверил тебе :)
breakfast [3p\]: но очки пропадут ...
WVoron [5d\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: в общем опять не уверен
breakfast [3p\]: решил защититься
]
;B[rj]C[breakfast [3p\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: это видел
breakfast [3p\]: двушку отдам
breakfast [3p\]: Кю9
WVoron [5d\]: да 
]
;W[pk]
;B[qi]C[breakfast [3p\]: эр9
breakfast [3p\]: эр8 в смысле
]
;W[ql]
;B[pj]C[breakfast [3p\]: не так страшно, вроде
]))
(;B[pm]C[WVoron [5d\]: ))
]
;W[qn]
;B[pn]))
(;B[hp]C[breakfast [3p\]: пока не определять игру
breakfast [3p\]: Т17 я все равно не пойду
breakfast [3p\]: времени нет
WVoron [5d\]: да согласен
breakfast [3p\]: много ко-угроз оставалось
]))
(;W[ig]C[breakfast [3p\]: и тут тоже
WVoron [5d\]: да уж
breakfast [3p\]: но уже не так важно
breakfast [3p\]: Ч сверху усилились
breakfast [3p\]: эффект не тот
]))
(;W[kg]TR[kc][ni]C[breakfast [3p\]: наверное так
breakfast [3p\]: жадко я играю ...
breakfast [3p\]: это было хонте
WVoron [5d\]: д5 тогда я
breakfast [3p\]: да, но все равно
WVoron [5d\]: ))
breakfast [3p\]: так у Ч все слабо
breakfast [3p\]: не люблю я по нейтральным играть
breakfast [3p\]: но это тот случай
breakfast [3p\]: когда надо
WVoron [5d\]: ну я доволен сейчас
breakfast [3p\]: а сейчас - за Белых
breakfast [3p\]: а сейчас я :)
]))
(;B[qk]
;W[qp]
;B[po]
;W[qo]
;B[pm])
(;B[qn]C[WVoron [5d\]: да
breakfast [3p\]: так может?
]
(;W[pn]
;B[qo]
;W[pm]C[WVoron [5d\]: s 7
WVoron [5d\]: ))
])
(;W[rn]
;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[qp]
;W[qj]
;B[ql]C[WVoron [5d\]: я
breakfast [3p\]: много всего интересного
])))
(;B[qc]C[WVoron [5d\]: я думал ты сам поставил 0.5
breakfast [3p\]: я уже не помню
breakfast [3p\]: но мы поменяем на правильное
breakfast [3p\]: такие случаи были уже
breakfast [3p\]: сложно Белым отвечать
]
(;W[pd]
;B[rd]C[breakfast [3p\]: лучше всего тут
]
;W[re]
;B[rf]
;W[rc]
;B[se]
;W[qb]
;B[dn]C[breakfast [3p\]: очень крепко у Ч
])
(;W[rd]
;B[pd]
;W[pe]
;B[pc]
;W[qf]
;B[oe]
;W[pf]
;B[rc]
;W[re]
;B[ne]C[breakfast [3p\]: тоже в пользу Ч
])))
(;W[pc]C[breakfast [3p\]: так что я должен был косуми играть
]
;B[rc]C[breakfast [3p\]: было бы так?
breakfast [3p\]: с борьбой?
]
;W[pf]
;B[pe]
;W[oe]
;B[of]C[WVoron [5d\]: наверное)
breakfast [3p\]: вот
breakfast [3p\]: я и решил не бороться
breakfast [3p\]: мне в сеансе сложно
]))
