(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[3]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[roln111]PB[Andromedan]WR[8d]BR[2k]DT[2010-01-29]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp][pp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: Enjoy the game
roln111 [8d\]: have a nice game)
Andromedan [2k\]: one final question
]RE[W+16.50]
;W[cd]WL[1790.317]C[Andromedan [2k\]: (hopefully I can make it enjoyable)
]
(;B[ed]BL[1787.906]C[roln111 [8d\]: ))
]
;W[gc]WL[1784.938]
;B[cc]BL[1785.125]
;W[bc]WL[1781.56]
;B[dc]BL[1781.309]
;W[cg]WL[1779.16]
;B[ge]BL[1778.608]
;W[gd]WL[1774.946]C[Andromedan [2k\]: how was the rest of the game? many big mistakes?
]
(;B[fe]BL[1769.221]
;W[he]WL[1722.544]C[Andromedan [2k\]: or just a few huge ones and many small
]
(;B[id]BL[1740.169]
;W[hd]WL[1719.893]
;B[ic]BL[1729.042]
;W[hg]WL[1709.472]
;B[fg]BL[1724.191]
;W[md]WL[1705.417]
;B[oc]BL[1672.384]
;W[nc]WL[1683.623]
(;B[pf]BL[1658.274]
;W[je]WL[1631.778]
(;B[fb]BL[1651.218]
;W[gb]WL[1628.858]
;B[ke]BL[1628.474]
;W[kd]WL[1624.87]
;B[ob]BL[1615.366]
;W[be]WL[1605.169]
;B[fi]BL[1605.065]
;W[cj]WL[1597.007]
(;B[qi]BL[1583.874]
;W[fq]WL[1594.299]SQ[dp]C[roln111 [8d\]: this stone looks anole now
Andromedan [2k\]: I was thinking about the double 3 space pincer after your o3
Andromedan [2k\]: how wouls that be?
Andromedan [2k\]: *would
]
(;B[cn]BL[1576.151]
;W[nq]WL[1587.27]C[Andromedan [2k\]: here
Andromedan [2k\]: K4
]
(;B[pn]BL[1571.948]
;W[jp]WL[1585.505]
;B[dr]BL[1568.462]
;W[qq]WL[1583.81]
;B[pq]BL[1564.581]
;W[pr]WL[1582.234]
;B[qp]BL[1563.759]
;W[rr]WL[1580.85]
;B[rq]BL[1562.949]
;W[qr]WL[1580.044]
;B[hq]BL[1558.346]
;W[jq]WL[1566.927]
;B[gp]BL[1527.087]
;W[qk]WL[1565.116]
;B[qm]BL[1510.636]
;W[ok]WL[1558.494]C[Andromedan [2k\]: ehh, that move felt funny (S7)
Andromedan [2k\]: *R7
]
;B[pj]BL[1495.546]C[roln111 [8d\]: )
]
;W[pk]WL[1555.436]
;B[ni]BL[1492.156]
;W[mk]WL[1542.246]
;B[np]BL[1484.13]
;W[mp]WL[1540.64]
;B[oq]BL[1482.544]
;W[no]WL[1521.135]
;B[nr]BL[1479.737]
;W[mq]WL[1519.354]
;B[or]BL[1478.197]
;W[rp]WL[1518.334]
;B[ro]BL[1475.794]
;W[sq]WL[1517.241]
;B[nn]BL[1467.761]
;W[oo]WL[1499.689]
;B[on]BL[1461.133]
;W[mn]WL[1498.221]
;B[nl]BL[1457.958]
;W[oj]WL[1492.847]
;B[oi]BL[1453.173]
;W[mj]WL[1490.148]
;B[mm]BL[1450.944]
;W[lm]WL[1485.424]
;B[rl]BL[1441.65]
;W[rk]WL[1479.934]
;B[ml]BL[1435.227]
;W[ll]WL[1478.399]
;B[ol]BL[1433.321]
;W[qg]WL[1457.116]
;B[pg]BL[1425.43]
;W[ri]WL[1428.577]
;B[qh]BL[1421.53]
;W[fp]WL[1366.982]
;B[fo]BL[1417.831]
;W[hr]WL[1360.106]
;B[ep]BL[1404.339]
;W[gr]WL[1354.93]
;B[io]BL[1399.116]
;W[bm]WL[1334.876]
;B[bn]BL[1396.13]C[Andromedan [2k\]: also, I was unsure about the sequence on top up to P18, it felt slow, but it did make the two stone capture very small...
roln111 [8d\]: its not bad for b except exchange l15-l16
]
;W[nb]WL[1202.234]
;B[na]BL[1389.113]
;W[ma]WL[1186.213]
;B[oa]BL[1386.576]
;W[mb]WL[1185.167]
;B[rh]BL[1345.479]
;W[cm]WL[1177.349]
;B[dm]BL[1342.625]
;W[dl]WL[1175.386]
;B[em]BL[1337.964]
;W[an]WL[1157.291]
;B[ao]BL[1334.93]
;W[am]WL[1156.228]
;B[bp]BL[1333.12]
;W[el]WL[1153.134]
;B[dh]BL[1327.254]
;W[ch]WL[1151.416]
;B[dj]BL[1318.252]
;W[ck]WL[1147.487]
;B[dg]BL[1313.356]
;W[er]WL[1124.083]
;B[cq]BL[1294.114]C[Andromedan [2k\]: yeah I left it after playing it because I realized theres no continuation
]
;W[de]WL[1052.215]
;B[fc]BL[1280.439]
;W[cb]WL[1040.499]
;B[db]BL[1277.7]
;W[bb]WL[1039.054]
;B[ga]BL[1275.807]
;W[ha]WL[1037.686]
;B[fa]BL[1274.59]
;W[ib]WL[1035.723]
;B[jo]BL[1240.722]
;W[ko]WL[1017.163]
;B[hh]BL[1207.883]
;W[ih]WL[1015.151]
;B[hi]BL[1204.016]
;W[fn]WL[1012.481]
;B[eo]BL[1199.38]
;W[mr]WL[963.634]
;B[ne]BL[1190.332]
;W[me]WL[961.362]
;B[nf]BL[1186.333]
;W[lg]WL[958.133]
;B[mf]BL[1168.195]
;W[lf]WL[953.267]
;B[ii]BL[1165.595]
;W[jh]WL[941.373]
;B[gg]BL[1162.48]
;W[hf]WL[938.391]
;B[fl]BL[1159.261]
;W[jm]WL[933.309]
;B[im]BL[1149.028]
;W[il]WL[931.413]
;B[hm]BL[1146.644]
;W[jn]WL[925.044]
;B[in]BL[1142.22]
;W[gl]WL[920.587]
;B[gm]BL[1139.319]
;W[fk]WL[919.116]
;B[fm]BL[1137.268]
;W[sh]WL[904.526]
;B[sg]BL[1131.514]
;W[sj]WL[902.58]
;B[rg]BL[1119.803]C[Andromedan [2k\]: hmm
]
;W[so]WL[875.964]C[Andromedan [2k\]: oops
Andromedan [2k\]: heh
roln111 [8d\]: what?)
Andromedan [2k\]: if I must go for a ko here, it's not good:)
]
;B[rn]BL[1074.902]C[Andromedan [2k\]: oh
Andromedan [2k\]: nothing
Andromedan [2k\]: I panic quickly when playing an 8d
roln111 [8d\]: ))
]
;W[hl]WL[823.061]
;B[iq]BL[1069.055]
;W[ir]WL[820.076]
;B[mh]BL[1031.791]
;W[op]WL[783.148]
;B[sl]BL[1020.69]
;W[di]WL[766.916]
;B[ei]BL[1017.288]
;W[ci]WL[766.066]
;B[df]BL[1015.683]
;W[ee]WL[755.166]
;B[fd]BL[1011.982]
;W[ef]WL[754.238]
;B[eg]BL[1009.676]
;W[cf]WL[747.985]
;B[ek]BL[1006.633]
;W[gj]WL[742.52]
;B[fj]BL[1003.537]
;W[gk]WL[741.343]
;B[lh]BL[954.827]
;W[kh]WL[716.819]
;B[jk]BL[945.641]
;W[jl]WL[714.341]
;B[li]BL[940.269]
;W[kk]WL[712.595]
;B[jj]BL[936.623]
;W[nd]WL[703.491]
;B[od]BL[933.573]
;W[mg]WL[675.182]
;B[ng]BL[930.77]
;W[gi]WL[672.226]
;B[gh]BL[927.784]
;W[po]WL[670.803]
;B[qo]BL[924.942]
;W[ds]WL[663.995]
;B[cs]BL[921.701]
;W[es]WL[663.188]
;B[eq]BL[916.481]
;W[ip]WL[657.94]
;B[hp]BL[910.329]
;W[ms]WL[656.629]
;B[qj]BL[904.543]
;W[si]WL[653.82]
;B[sn]BL[900.184]
;W[sp]WL[652.342]
;B[lj]BL[891.568]
;W[lk]WL[643.048]
;B[gq]BL[874.307]
;W[fr]WL[641.101]
;B[ca]BL[866.28]
;W[ba]WL[639.234]
;B[da]BL[863.971]
;W[pl]WL[603.72]
;B[pm]BL[860.559]
;W[dk]WL[602.032]
;B[ej]BL[857.43]
;W[dd]WL[595.621]
;B[ps]BL[841.104]
;W[qs]WL[593.366]
;B[os]BL[840.101]
;W[kj]WL[591.642]
;B[ji]BL[835.602]
;W[ki]WL[590.44]
;B[mi]BL[833.683]
;W[]WL[590.439]
;B[]BL[833.682]TW[aa][ia][ja][ka][la][ab][hb][jb][kb][lb][ac][hc][ic][jc][kc][lc][mc][ad][bd][id][jd][ld][ae][ce][ie][ke][le][af][bf][if][jf][kf][ag][bg][ig][jg][kg][ah][bh][ai][bi][aj][bj][ak][bk][al][bl][cl][kl][km][kn][ln][lo][mo][kp][lp][np][kq][lq][rq][jr][kr][lr][sr][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][rs][ss]TB[ea][pa][qa][ra][sa][eb][pb][qb][rb][sb][ec][pc][qc][rc][sc][qd][rd][sd][oe][pe][qe][re][se][of][qf][rf][sf][og][qg][eh][fh][nh][oh][ph][pi][nm][om][rm][sm][dn][en][fn][gn][hn][qn][bo][co][do][go][ho][ap][cp][aq][bq][dq][ar][br][cr][as][bs]C[Andromedan [2k\]: Thanks
roln111 [8d\]: thanks)
Andromedan [2k\]: Hope it was enjoyable:)
roln111 [8d\]: yeah)
Andromedan [2k\]: the joseki in top left
Andromedan [2k\]: how is it supposed to go?
Andromedan [2k\]: I lost track
])
(;B[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: ?
]
;W[qn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: so what should I have done?
]
;B[np]
;W[mp]
;B[no]
;W[qq]
;B[oq]
;W[qp]
;B[mq]
;W[dr]
;B[cq]
;W[hq]TR[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: looks better for me than the game still...
roln111 [8d\]: this joseki is not good for black
]))
(;B[hq]C[roln111 [8d\]: you better play pincer here
Andromedan [2k\]: direction changes are still hard for me.
]
(;W[cq]C[Andromedan [2k\]: hard to see, that is
]
;B[dq]
;W[cp]
;B[do]
;W[dr]
;B[er]
;W[cr]
;B[eq]
;W[cn]
;B[np]C[roln111 [8d\]: if w plays this joseki the result is good for vblack
Andromedan [2k\]: so you'll jump out
Andromedan [2k\]: instead of 3-3
roln111 [8d\]: w left side is low
])
(;W[fo]
;B[cn]
(;W[ip]
;B[eq]
;W[iq]
;B[fr]
;W[gq]
;B[gr]
;W[hr]
;B[pn]C[Andromedan [2k\]: I'd be afraid of something else
Andromedan [2k\]: can I show?
roln111 [8d\]: yes
Andromedan [2k\]: a stranger variation
])
(;W[dm]
;B[dn]LB[fi:B][hq:A]C[Andromedan [2k\]: this problem
roln111 [8d\]: yeah..
Andromedan [2k\]: and I have no good way that I can see
Andromedan [2k\]: to get out of trouble immediately
roln111 [8d\]: that's why k4 was urgent
Andromedan [2k\]: ouch
Andromedan [2k\]: one move
Andromedan [2k\]: so much difference
]
;W[fm]C[Andromedan [2k\]: even just this would be dangerous
roln111 [8d\]: yes
Andromedan [2k\]: corner can be used, h3 weak , center top not even close to alive
Andromedan [2k\]: wow
Andromedan [2k\]: R11 looked so big
Andromedan [2k\]: ,,,
roln111 [8d\]: ))
Andromedan [2k\]: someone is screaming "urgent before big" in my ears right now
Andromedan [2k\]: voice of lectures past
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
Andromedan [2k\]: Thanks for the game
roln111 [8d\]: actually k4 was both bigger and urgent
Andromedan [2k\]: anything else was interesting?
Andromedan [2k\]: i see
roln111 [8d\]: nothing..
roln111 [8d\]: just oyse
Andromedan [2k\]: Thanks a lot
Andromedan [2k\]: it was fun
Andromedan [2k\]: I enjoyed it
Andromedan [2k\]: and learned a lot
roln111 [8d\]: that's great)
]))))
(;B[jp]C[Andromedan [2k\]: bigger?
roln111 [8d\]: yes
Andromedan [2k\]: ah
Andromedan [2k\]: leaves you no easy invasion point
roln111 [8d\]: connevting your hoshi
roln111 [8d\]: connecting*
]))
(;B[lc]C[roln111 [8d\]: you can try to life here
Andromedan [2k\]: I was looking at this, but with Q16 instead of P16
Andromedan [2k\]: does it work?
]
;W[nb]C[Andromedan [2k\]: ice e
]
(;B[ke])
(;B[ie]
;W[if]
;B[ke]
;W[jd]
;B[jf]
;W[jc]
;B[ig]
;W[hf]
;B[kf]
;W[jb]
;B[mf]
(;W[ld])
(;W[lb]C[roln111 [8d\]: b can get influence
roln111 [8d\]: there are many variations
])))
(;B[ke]
;W[kd]C[roln111 [8d\]: but not it is difficult
roln111 [8d\]: now*
]))
(;B[nb]
;W[mb]
;B[nd]
;W[mc]
;B[ne]))
(;B[hf]
;W[ie]
;B[if]))
(;B[he]
(;W[id]C[Andromedan [2k\]: with F15
]
;B[be]
;W[bd]
;B[ce]
;W[dd]
;B[de]
;W[ec]C[Andromedan [2k\]: after H1
Andromedan [2k\]: 5
]
(;B[ee]
;W[eb]C[Andromedan [2k\]: I was thinking if white would cut immediately
]
;B[cj]C[roln111 [8d\]: like this
Andromedan [2k\]: wow
Andromedan [2k\]: total change in direction
roln111 [8d\]: yes
])
(;B[eb]C[roln111 [8d\]: also this move is possible
]
;W[ee]
;B[fd]
;W[fc]
;B[fe]
;W[bb]
;B[ef]
(;W[jd]
;B[cj]C[Andromedan [2k\]: K16
Andromedan [2k\]: without it
Andromedan [2k\]: the cut is dangerous?
Andromedan [2k\]: or just aji?
])
(;W[ck]
;B[hd]
;W[hc]
;B[ic]
;W[ib]
;B[jc]
;W[jb]
;B[kc]C[Andromedan [2k\]: I was thinking with D18 capture
roln111 [8d\]: b would cut immideatly
Andromedan [2k\]: white would be fine
Andromedan [2k\]: but second line is not fine heh
Andromedan [2k\]: I still have to sort these out
Andromedan [2k\]: alive and well are two different things...
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
]
;W[kb]
;B[lc]C[roln111 [8d\]: )
Andromedan [2k\]: cool
])))
(;W[fe]C[roln111 [8d\]: here?
Andromedan [2k\]: but yeah, white has too few liberties
Andromedan [2k\]: yeah this one
]
;B[fd]
;W[ff]C[Andromedan [2k\]: interesting 
Andromedan [2k\]: the direction change
]
;B[ic]C[Andromedan [2k\]: for some reason I was afraid of ghosts
roln111 [8d\]: w stones woulf be dead
Andromedan [2k\]: I see that now:) it didn't look that obvious during the game
])))
(;B[pj]C[Andromedan [2k\]: would this be a good alternative
Andromedan [2k\]: to E16?
Andromedan [2k\]: if I don't want a fight
Andromedan [2k\]: ?
roln111 [8d\]: its playable
roln111 [8d\]: there are many good moves
Andromedan [2k\]: still an open board... 
Andromedan [2k\]: hope we get to play a lot more
Andromedan [2k\]: hopefully, one day on equal terms
Andromedan [2k\]: :)
roln111 [8d\]: )
Andromedan [2k\]: bye for now
]))
