(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[PonKiske]PB[elligain]WR[7k]BR[5k]DT[2011-09-24]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[elligain [5k\]: have a nice game
PonKiske [7k\]: Thanks for the game
elligain [5k\]: thank to you too
PonKiske [7k\]: you too
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1779.447]
;W[dd]WL[1797.855]
;B[dq]BL[1769.05]
;W[pp]WL[1792.447]
;B[fc]BL[1765.354]
;W[cf]WL[1781.791]
;B[db]BL[1758.087]
;W[kc]WL[1773.578]C[elligain [5k\]: im not good in fuseki
xzenith42 [2k\]: this is overplay for white
elligain [5k\]: so if you know, tell me ^^
elligain [5k\]: why overplay ?
PonKiske [7k\]: ok
xzenith42 [2k\]: n/o17 for black
]
(;B[ic]BL[1750.815]C[elligain [5k\]: it is near the same here
xzenith42 [2k\]: in this case the top isn't more interesting than the corner
xzenith42 [2k\]: so i think c17 is fine
elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: but i choose this one
elligain [5k\]: because i fell more "safe"
elligain [5k\]: and good enough for me
xzenith42 [2k\]: feels like wrong direction
elligain [5k\]: but you are certainly right
xzenith42 [2k\]: but, not terrible for either side
]
;W[nc]WL[1771.084]
;B[oc]BL[1737.31]
;W[nd]WL[1766.782]C[PonKiske [7k\]: yeah, please share any insight 
]
;B[pf]BL[1734.345]LB[ke:A]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: heya woodyy
woodyy [4d\]: hey)
elligain [5k\]: hello
PonKiske [7k\]: Hello
elligain [5k\]: do you can explain your point of view, please ?
PonKiske [7k\]: Me?
xzenith42 [2k\]: think he means the 4d xD
woodyy [4d\]: ok
PonKiske [7k\]: ah.
woodyy [4d\]: good black))
elligain [5k\]: A is weak here 
elligain [5k\]: ?
woodyy [4d\]: Are usually protected
]
;W[co]WL[1732.56]
;B[ck]BL[1617.635]
;W[qh]WL[1702.221]
;B[ph]BL[1603.934]
;W[pi]WL[1696.087]
;B[oh]BL[1599.051]C[elligain [5k\]: ok
]
(;W[qk]WL[1692.836]
(;B[cp]BL[1582.068]LB[qg:A]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
woodyy [4d\]: many for black and white
]
;W[cm]WL[1687.582]
;B[ch]BL[1575.195]
;W[cc]WL[1680.099]
;B[do]BL[1566.004]
;W[dn]WL[1676.008]
;B[bo]BL[1562.22]
(;W[cn]WL[1657.659]
;B[eo]BL[1559.647]TR[cm][cn][dn][co]SQ[bi][bj][bp][dp][ep][bq][cq][eq][br][cr][dr][er]C[woodyy [4d\]: 0 points
woodyy [4d\]: 0 effect
woodyy [4d\]: black in territoria
]
;W[hq]WL[1654.708]
(;B[jq]BL[1525.683]
;W[dk]WL[1586.253]
;B[dj]BL[1519.613]
;W[ek]WL[1581.188]
;B[io]BL[1513.35]
(;W[mq]WL[1577.085]C[elligain [5k\]: y idea was attack c6
]
;B[ej]BL[1506.77]
;W[fk]WL[1552.657]
(;B[fm]BL[1468.963]
;W[em]WL[1547.527]
;B[cl]BL[1461.16]LB[eb:2][ec:1][gc:4][fd:3][gd:5][hd:6]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: yeah, leave the options
woodyy [4d\]: Loss of possibilities in the future
]
;W[ec]WL[1469.147]
;B[eb]BL[1452.532]
;W[fd]WL[1460.463]
;B[gc]BL[1436.316]
;W[gd]WL[1457.493]
;B[hd]BL[1391.896]
(;W[dg]WL[1451.092]
;B[fj]BL[1385.059]
;W[gk]WL[1444.446]C[woodyy [4d\]: The white force itself to drive
]
;B[hl]BL[1376.054]
;W[gm]WL[1436.037]
;B[fn]BL[1372.486]
;W[gl]WL[1408.439]
;B[gn]BL[1351.717]
;W[ho]WL[1403.42]
;B[hn]BL[1348.864]
;W[ip]WL[1398.841]
;B[jp]BL[1339.079]
;W[jo]WL[1379.071]
;B[in]BL[1336.03]
;W[kp]WL[1366.611]
;B[ko]BL[1290.658]
;W[jn]WL[1364.386]
(;B[jm]BL[1256.157]
;W[kn]WL[1361.843]
;B[lo]BL[1254.648]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: i don't like h8 shape
]
;W[lp]WL[1349.249]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: too much weakness
]
;B[ln]BL[1248.926]C[PonKiske [7k\]: yes
]
;W[km]WL[1347.146]
;B[lm]BL[1240.147]
;W[kl]WL[1345.311]
;B[jl]BL[1236.583]
;W[kk]WL[1341.179]
;B[jk]BL[1234.456]
;W[hj]WL[1322.586]
;B[hi]BL[1224.629]
;W[ij]WL[1307.572]
;B[jj]BL[1222.867]
;W[ii]WL[1305.456]
;B[ji]BL[1219.973]
;W[ih]WL[1303.043]
;B[lj]BL[1204.836]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: ouch
woodyy [4d\]: not good))
xzenith42 [2k\]: wait, does k2 work?
xzenith42 [2k\]: can you do the whole variation?
]
(;W[iq]WL[1176.482]
;B[jr]BL[1192.19]
;W[ir]WL[1172.152]
;B[js]BL[1160.325]
;W[is]WL[1117.129]C[elligain [5k\]: here
PonKiske [7k\]: yes
woodyy [4d\]: luck
elligain [5k\]: there was k2
elligain [5k\]: for white
]
;B[ll]BL[1156.433]
;W[er]WL[1112.683]
;B[gq]BL[1143.217]
;W[gr]WL[1107.397]
;B[fq]BL[1138.49]
;W[fr]WL[1105.507]
;B[dr]BL[1134.724]
;W[hs]WL[1100.683]
;B[qq]BL[1116.804]
;W[qp]WL[1094.489]
;B[rp]BL[1114.514]
;W[ro]WL[1091.793]
;B[rq]BL[1113.051]
;W[qo]WL[1087.106]
;B[or]BL[1110.465]
;W[pq]WL[1083.175]
;B[pr]BL[1108.944]
;W[oq]WL[1081.04]
;B[pm]BL[1101.302]
;W[qm]WL[1065.139]
;B[qg]BL[1098.99]
;W[rh]WL[1062.529]
;B[rg]BL[1097.094]
;W[bi]WL[1049.166]
;B[bh]BL[1053.762]
;W[ci]WL[1035.57]
;B[di]BL[1049.608]
;W[bl]WL[1003.748]
;B[bk]BL[1046.009]
;W[al]WL[994.765]
;B[ak]BL[1039.902]
;W[dh]WL[989.133]
;B[bg]BL[1019.393]
;W[bf]WL[986.927]
;B[ai]BL[1013.693]
;W[bj]WL[935.901]
;B[bm]BL[998.979]
;W[bn]WL[924.574]
;B[am]BL[997.211]
;W[kq]WL[882.063]
;B[lk]BL[993.625]
;W[kr]WL[878.85]
;B[kj]BL[991.328]
;W[nr]WL[875.761]
;B[qs]BL[951.368]
;W[jb]WL[864.676]
;B[ff]BL[940.261]
;W[fh]WL[839.812]
;B[gj]BL[922.616]
;W[hk]WL[837.257]
;B[gh]BL[920.985]
;W[hh]WL[834.101]
;B[gg]BL[908.255]
;W[gi]WL[812.265]
;B[fi]BL[906.241]
;W[fg]WL[808.977]
;B[hi]BL[900.992]
;W[bp]WL[804.464]
;B[bq]BL[888.39]
;W[gi]WL[800.733]
;B[eh]BL[869.344]
;W[eg]WL[793.728]
;B[hi]BL[867.353]
;W[ks]WL[774.329]
;B[jo]BL[864.721]
;W[gi]WL[769.78]
;B[es]BL[858.315]
;W[fs]WL[766.874]
;B[hi]BL[855.201]
;W[os]WL[747.761]
;B[rs]BL[835.795]
;W[gi]WL[743.553]
;B[hf]BL[823.635]
;W[hg]WL[727.567]
;B[gf]BL[821.76]
;W[if]WL[724.917]
;B[ee]BL[801.545]
;W[ed]WL[721.502]
;B[ie]BL[799.108]
;W[jf]WL[710.781]
;B[je]BL[796.843]
;W[kf]WL[700.824]
;B[ke]BL[795.356]
;W[jh]WL[680.848]
;B[lb]BL[785.416]
;W[lc]WL[677.499]
;B[nb]BL[783.528]
;W[ob]WL[667.08]
;B[pb]BL[771.684]
;W[mb]WL[665.023]
;B[oa]BL[769.812]
;W[la]WL[648.886]
;B[ib]BL[767.26]
;W[ld]WL[640.824]
;B[bb]BL[764.15]
;W[bc]WL[638.2]
;B[cb]BL[762.747]
;W[eq]WL[581.573]
;B[ep]BL[755.847]
;W[ao]WL[571.169]
;B[aq]BL[748.453]
;W[cr]WL[567.976]
;B[cq]BL[743.614]
;W[ds]WL[565.802]
;B[br]BL[740.212]
;W[cs]WL[552.644]
;B[bs]BL[738.292]
;W[es]WL[550.092]
;B[be]BL[726.915]
;W[ae]WL[543.73]
;B[ad]BL[724.698]
;W[af]WL[530.983]
;B[bd]BL[718.322]
;W[ac]WL[520.089]
;B[de]BL[710.086]
;W[ce]WL[517.833]
;B[he]BL[657.318]
;W[ah]WL[371.063]
;B[aj]BL[649.829]C[PonKiske [7k\]: Thanks for the game
elligain [5k\]: thanks
elligain [5k\]: do  you want a review ?
PonKiske [7k\]: crushed me
PonKiske [7k\]: sure
])
(;W[jr]C[elligain [5k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: i see it
elligain [5k\]: but
woodyy [4d\]: ?
PonKiske [7k\]: ah!
elligain [5k\]: it was what i think
PonKiske [7k\]: I d
PonKiske [7k\]: ...
elligain [5k\]: i win good influence
]
;B[iq]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: i'm not reading how it works for white
]
;W[hp]
;B[ir]
;W[hr]
;B[kr]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: seems to work for black
elligain [5k\]: it works ?
elligain [5k\]: so i bad read it ^^
]
(;W[kq]
;B[js]
;W[hs]
;B[is]
;W[ls]
;B[lr]
;W[mr]
;B[kj])
(;W[is]
;B[js]
;W[hs]
;B[kq]
;W[ls]
;B[lr]
;W[mr]
;B[kj]
;W[ms]
;B[lk]
;W[ks]
;B[ll]
;W[jr]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: right, ok, ko
xzenith42 [2k\]: that's what i thought
woodyy [4d\]: Sad to
woodyy [4d\]: ko
xzenith42 [2k\]: yes
elligain [5k\]: yes
xzenith42 [2k\]: ok, i gotta run...go club time...later guys :)
elligain [5k\]: bye
PonKiske [7k\]: bye
woodyy [4d\]: bye
elligain [5k\]: and thanks
elligain [5k\]: even if you have already quit
PonKiske [7k\]: well that was humbling
elligain [5k\]: yes
PonKiske [7k\]: thanks for the game however
elligain [5k\]: thanks
elligain [5k\]: see you
PonKiske [7k\]: take care
])))
(;B[ir]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: wait...k2 is a ko?
]))
(;W[fj]LB[cm:B][cn:A]C[woodyy [4d\]: not strong
]))
(;B[go]))
(;W[ej]
;B[di]C[elligain [5k\]: to have influence agains c17 and o17
woodyy [4d\]: 100% for white move
xzenith42 [2k\]: mmmm
xzenith42 [2k\]: and sente
]
(;W[go])
(;W[mq])))
(;B[fm])
(;B[ho]
;W[kp]
;B[el]C[elligain [5k\]: yes, 
elligain [5k\]: its easer
])
(;B[en]
;W[em]
(;B[fm]
;W[el]
;B[jq])
(;B[jq]C[woodyy [4d\]: Not prepared attack
])))
(;W[bn]C[woodyy [4d\]: not variant
]
;B[cn]
;W[gd]))
(;B[qg]TR[qa][ra][sa][qb][rb][sb][qc][rc][sc][qd][rd][sd][qe][re][se][qf][rf][sf]C[PonKiske [7k\]: yes
woodyy [4d\]: many
xzenith42 [2k\]: does the fully fix the r17 invasion?
]
;W[qc]
;B[pb]TR[kc][nc][nd]C[woodyy [4d\]: danger
xzenith42 [2k\]: of course
]))
(;W[qg]C[woodyy [4d\]: but no?
elligain [5k\]: r14 for b
]
;B[qf]
;W[qj]LB[pg:A]C[elligain [5k\]: o14
PonKiske [7k\]: aji
]
;B[nf]
;W[ci])
(;W[qj]
;B[qg]))
(;B[nc]
;W[hc]C[elligain [5k\]: not good for w
xzenith42 [2k\]: c17
xzenith42 [2k\]: right
elligain [5k\]: because he loose sente
]
;B[cc]
;W[ci]C[xzenith42 [2k\]: and black takes the corner
PonKiske [7k\]: ah
xzenith42 [2k\]: so white gets a small group
elligain [5k\]: no, its joseki
elligain [5k\]: but ys
xzenith42 [2k\]: really?
elligain [5k\]: w lose sente
elligain [5k\]: so it is bad for him
xzenith42 [2k\]: this is really bad for white i feel
xzenith42 [2k\]: white gained nothing, black can even seail the corner on the upper right now
elligain [5k\]: i think so too ^^
xzenith42 [2k\]: and net ~20 points
elligain [5k\]: yes
woodyy [4d\]: not better
PonKiske [7k\]: should of just protected corner then?
PonKiske [7k\]: Noted
woodyy [4d\]: Now white everywhere are stable
]))
