(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[2]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[ggeorge]WR[3p]BR[3d]DT[2011-10-05]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[pd][dp]C[ggeorge [3d\]: hello!
breakfast [3p\]: Have a good game!
]RE[W+41.50]
;W[po]WL[1774.266]
;B[cd]BL[1794.743]
;W[ed]WL[1765.314]
;B[hd]BL[1782.174]
;W[dh]WL[1750.986]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: ooh yeah :3
Wagaboo [4k\]: e15 e15 e15 e15 e15 e15 e15 
]
;B[ee]BL[1740.139]
;W[fe]WL[1747.971]
;B[ef]BL[1737.734]
;W[dd]WL[1742.265]
(;B[cf]BL[1733.118]
;W[cc]WL[1728.383]
;B[ce]BL[1729.911]C[IamSAII: มาอีกและ สราด
]
;W[fc]WL[1721.11]C[ggeorge [3d\]: better this way?
breakfast [3p\]: this is a bit better for W
]
;B[bc]BL[1728.204]
;W[cb]WL[1717.481]C[FreshTooth [2k\]: kghin is watching
Wagaboo [4k\]: c14 was abd
Wagaboo [4k\]: bad
]
(;B[jq]BL[1639.88]
;W[cl]WL[1692.138]C[vaansama [8k\]: b12
]
(;B[cn]BL[1596.213]C[phoo [3k\]: ผมคนไทยครับ
]
;W[bg]WL[1689.917]C[vaansama [8k\]: boom
Wagaboo [4k\]: b in TROUBLE !
FreshTooth [2k\]: no
FreshTooth [2k\]: c14
FreshTooth [2k\]: is good
ggeorge [3d\]: right
breakfast [3p\]: painful for B
breakfast [3p\]: have tun away now
breakfast [3p\]: have to run away*
phoo [3k\]: กรุณาอย่าทำคนไทยเสียภาพพจน์
]
;B[ff]BL[1569.712]
;W[ge]WL[1687.649]C[FreshTooth [2k\]: it preservs the corner
]
;B[fh]BL[1562.09]C[vaansama [8k\]: tell me when he take some points
FreshTooth [2k\]: e2
]
;W[dj]WL[1629.051]C[FreshTooth [2k\]: nice move
Wagaboo [4k\]: it looks like b almost lost his handicap already
FreshTooth [2k\]: d10 is very good
FreshTooth [2k\]: e3
]
;B[ig]BL[1494.576]
;W[qf]WL[1593.977]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: b should pince no?
Wagaboo [4k\]: a high pince
]
;B[nc]BL[1444.882]
;W[pi]WL[1590.743]
(;B[np]BL[1403.984]C[Naphthalin [11k\]: phoo, stop that please
]
;W[pq]WL[1588.039]C[FreshTooth [2k\]: b should watch out of e2 and 2d
Wagaboo [4k\]: are breakfast  S game some kind of training for him ?
FreshTooth [2k\]: e3 is good here
FreshTooth [2k\]: no
FreshTooth [2k\]: thats his insei league
]
;B[qe]BL[1332.768]
;W[pf]WL[1584.759]C[FreshTooth [2k\]: they are paying for this games
FreshTooth [2k\]: to him
Wagaboo [4k\]: oh that's why :)
]
;B[qk]BL[1292.725]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: a move on the right and w is ahead
Wagaboo [4k\]: fiew b noticed
]
;W[qm]WL[1560.226]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: is playing 4 games at once difficult ?
Wagaboo [4k\]: yeah it is my max is 3 games
]
;B[ok]BL[1262.997]
;W[qj]WL[1555.055]
;B[ql]BL[1242.325]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: you have to think very fast
Pom [29k\]: black seems to be leading
Wagaboo [4k\]: it's a good training :)
]
;W[pm]WL[1530.646]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: if you do that with same level players
]
(;B[pr]BL[1209.063]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: wow 29k quite rare !
]
;W[oq]WL[1523.677]
;B[or]BL[1204.491]
;W[nq]WL[1521.39]
;B[qq]BL[1203.338]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: usually B loks good at first in handicap games
]
;W[qp]WL[1504.566]
;B[nr]BL[1193.912]
;W[mq]WL[1499.529]
;B[rq]BL[1192.189]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: yup but w is coming back !!
]
;W[od]WL[1493.7]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: b has a weak group
Pom [29k\]: where ?
Wagaboo [4k\]: on the right 
]
;B[pc]BL[1104.828]
;W[re]WL[1491.189]
;B[rd]BL[1101.337]
;W[pe]WL[1489.583]
;B[qd]BL[1078.376]
;W[fq]WL[1473.505]LB[pd:6][fh:1][ok:3][dp:4][jq:2][nr:5]C[Pom [29k\]: no captured stones yet
superREDS [1d\]: bullying again...
sisi [11k\]: ahah Wagaboo [4k\]: wow 29k quite rare ! 
breakfast [3p\]: 3 weak groups
ggeorge [3d\]: :)
breakfast [3p\]: 6 in total
breakfast [3p\]: too much
]
;B[dq]BL[991.921]
;W[hq]WL[1463.559]C[superREDS [1d\]: nobody disagreed
Pom [29k\]: the S means Strong ?
superREDS [1d\]: what S?
TurtleDove [5k\]: means simultaneous
Pom [29k\]: amazing, how can you play more than 1 game at a time
superREDS [1d\]: S stand for single
]
;B[nl]BL[834.339]C[superREDS [1d\]: or super
]
;W[er]WL[1451.325]C[futsal: n 15 better ?
]
;B[dr]BL[828.451]
;W[bm]WL[1449.123]
;B[bn]BL[821.59]
;W[an]WL[1424.879]C[futsal: w gonna close right corner soon
]
;B[ao]BL[797.594]
;W[am]WL[1421.107]C[TurtleDove [5k\]: seems early for a6. why would pro play that ?
Pom [29k\]: eh, the right corner looks black to me
richilue [3k\]: i think w fires a volley with o6 next 
]
;B[bp]BL[779.106]
;W[ds]WL[1416.642]
;B[cs]BL[764.43]C[superREDS [1d\]: seems sente if either of them play it
]
;W[es]WL[1403.581]C[futsal: b k6
TurtleDove [5k\]: seems yose
]
;B[cr]BL[741.97]C[superREDS [1d\]: ??
richilue [3k\]: only to turtles :)
TurtleDove [5k\]: hahha
futsal: so slow
superREDS [1d\]: if its threaten a group live its sente
MicMac [1d\]: hummm
futsal: c2
]
;W[he]WL[1382.6]C[MicMac [1d\]: black so submissive
superREDS [1d\]: expected of b
superREDS [1d\]: if he can win breakfast he can be pro
breakfast [3p\]: hard game for B now
breakfast [3p\]: even on points you have no lead
breakfast [3p\]: and W is much thicker
ggeorge [3d\]: right
breakfast [3p\]: rest was fun :)
breakfast [3p\]: big fight
ggeorge [3d\]: :)
breakfast [3p\]: see you again!
ggeorge [3d\]: thank you again!
ggeorge [3d\]: see you around
Tallis13 [12k\]: thnx
]
;B[jd]BL[709.589]C[superREDS [1d\]: i had big mac for breakfast
]
;W[hg]WL[1368.716]C[superREDS [1d\]: most of u had bacon?
]
;B[gi]BL[686.231]C[futsal: maybe b likes small life
superREDS [1d\]: lol
superREDS [1d\]: joke of the day
richilue [3k\]: nah  we are danes and the price of bacon just went up
]
;W[ll]WL[1348.12]C[richilue [3k\]: the fat tax 
Pom [29k\]: w +43
richilue [3k\]: oh   heh   i was thinkin w would capture 1 group  not the whole thing
]
;B[jl]BL[643.928]C[futsal: opps
]
;W[lj]WL[1334.934]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: k8 Fantastic move :))
Pom [29k\]: why ?
sanjulorf [1k\]: because k8 says please kill me
zc3k [1k\]: surrander
futsal: right in the middle doing ery little
superREDS [1d\]: he was being sarcast...
]
;B[ni]BL[609.95]C[futsal: arnt we all
Pom [29k\]: dunno, somehow these players don't look so good, still no captures
ChipMonk [1k\]: pm, you are 29k
richilue [3k\]: n7
ChipMonk [1k\]: this is why
ChipMonk [1k\]: :p
superREDS [1d\]: 29k n deproving?
TurtleDove [5k\]: B thinks ... I better not pressure thr pro cos he might get angry and kill me o.O
superREDS [1d\]: 30k is max
]
;W[ld]WL[1278.821]C[MicMac [1d\]: black has so many weak stones
ChipMonk [1k\]: how does one even get 29k now
jeven [6k?\]: 29k commentary is the best :) "still no captures"
DanielTom [-\]: isn't 29k close to randomness
ChipMonk [1k\]: yea
DanielTom [-\]: must be hard
richilue [3k\]: MM  if you were playing gg  you would be struggling at this point
]
;B[nd]BL[566.653]C[ChipMonk [1k\]: hard to play that bad?
ChipMonk [1k\]: ;)
DanielTom [-\]: yes :)
superREDS [1d\]: how many ppl have u sandbagged pom?
Pom [29k\]: a million
ChipMonk [1k\]: this actually looks like a legit 29k...
]
;W[jg]WL[1255.848]C[ChipMonk [1k\]: >_>
Ponobo [5k\]: I love his progression graph ^^
]
;B[ng]BL[547.496]
;W[rj]WL[1247.701]C[Pom [29k\]: I don't
Ponobo [5k\]: some kind of asymptotic one.
superREDS [1d\]: pom played a million games?
Pom [29k\]: didn't you ?
superREDS [1d\]: no
]
;B[ke]BL[504.683]C[superREDS [1d\]: only u have
]
;W[hj]WL[1234.994]C[Pom [29k\]: well, I heard a proverb yesterday, something about losing a million games, can't remember the rest
sanjulorf [1k\]: m14 seems nice for w
]
;B[fk]BL[465.229]C[jeven [6k?\]: last time i heard that it was only 50 games o.o
ChipMonk [1k\]: lose 1 million games - get a life
superREDS [1d\]: u mean mentally losing a million games
SHAWARMA: lose your first 1k games as fast as possible
]
;W[nj]WL[1219.88]C[ChipMonk [1k\]: it's not 1k
ChipMonk [1k\]: it's 100
Pom [29k\]: right, did you really think a human being can play a million games ?
superREDS [1d\]: seems easy... i resign for a million times
superREDS [1d\]: yes
SHAWARMA: well what you heard doesnt really apply to me, does it ? 
]
;B[dl]BL[423.124]C[superREDS [1d\]: that is possible
]
;W[dk]WL[1205.688]C[jeven [6k?\]: if one game lasts one hour
jeven [6k?\]: and you play w/o pause or sleeping
richilue [3k\]: 1 hr?
kmdkt [11k\]: getting trolled by a 29k
kmdkt [11k\]: dsf
jeven [6k?\]: you need 114 years
superREDS [1d\]: lol
richilue [3k\]: hmm   make it 1 min
superREDS [1d\]: jeven is amazing
]
;B[ip]BL[388.893]C[superREDS [1d\]: he is 115 year old
Pom [29k\]: does that include sleep ?
]
;W[go]WL[1188.414]C[richilue [3k\]: no sleeping allowed
SHAWARMA: that lazy fool slept a whole year!
jeven [6k?\]: 1min -> 2 years 2/o pause or 4yrs with half time play half time sleep
ChipMonk [1k\]: humanly impossible
ChipMonk [1k\]: :(
]
;B[lm]BL[370.168]C[ChipMonk [1k\]: hope for early resigns
jeven [6k?\]: lol
richilue [3k\]: barely    i know  i tried   at 356935  i had to take a nap
jeven [6k?\]: lol
]
;W[kl]WL[1148.954]C[jeven [6k?\]: imagine you lose track of your games
jeven [6k?\]: you'd have to start over
richilue [3k\]: nah  lost track of the kids   heh  wife even had 1 in there somewhere
]
;B[km]BL[342.426]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: imagine the number of kibitz if you have played million of games :)
richilue [3k\]: i have NO idea how that happened
jeven [6k?\]: sanjulorf, lol
futsal: me think game over
qolos: for who?
Pom [29k\]: hm, its still even, no captures in 92 moves
futsal: b win
]
;W[mm]WL[1103.814]C[richilue [3k\]: i think game ended when w laid down the lsw with M10
sanjulorf [1k\]: black gets a  hair cut here
qolos: hmmm
]
;B[hp]BL[294.224]
;W[gp]WL[1097.401]
;B[gr]BL[292.635]C[qolos: i thinking white got more defesive options
futsal: bn 10 good enough
qolos: so might be a turn arond
futsal: for b
sanjulorf [1k\]: h2 
]
;W[hr]WL[1072.763]
;B[ir]BL[282.362]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: g1?
]
;W[gs]WL[1052.083]C[richilue [3k\]: g1  and w life in sente
]
;B[fr]BL[271.731]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: not sente but it lives
qolos: b got good postions but most of the formations on the board are live still
]
;W[iq]WL[1039.056]
;B[jp]BL[242.554]C[Ponobo [5k\]: K4 then e3 ?
]
;W[jm]WL[1024.271]
;B[im]BL[231.062]
;W[jn]WL[1015.06]
;B[in]BL[219.93]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: uh maybe w has a bigger plan
qolos: maybe
]
;W[il]WL[1001.429]C[qolos: or white got to caught up in the btm battle
]
;B[jk]BL[210.62]C[sameasyou [3d\]: I hope b attack succeeds and w dies
sanjulorf [1k\]: l5
Pom [29k\]: m6 seems like a capture to me
sanjulorf [1k\]: w's bottom group can live half
]
;W[ln]WL[949.987]C[Ponobo [5k\]: M6 captures, w wins.
Pom [29k\]: hm, guess 3p knows how to capture after all
]
;B[eq]BL[183.861]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: or w can get  center now
]
;W[hl]WL[934.544]C[qolos: black opted for corner
qolos: wonder if white can surround
]
;B[gn]BL[144.822]C[superREDS [1d\]: dont suspect w
murrmurr [6d?\]: looking to kill bottom but black e14 probably suffers
Pom [29k\]: weird, I doubt I will ever be able to play so many moves without taking a few stones of the board
MicMac [1d\]: certainly he can use the aji of f8 cut
daft [3d\]: I think B should have played E8, then W connects then B N2
qolos: it just means u very offence minded pom
jeven [6k?\]: h1 sente?
]
;W[hn]WL[876.279]C[jeven [6k?\]: for w
daft [3d\]: this is just going to blow up in his face
Pom [29k\]: go is a peaceful game ?
daft [3d\]: no
superREDS [1d\]: yes
murrmurr [6d?\]: pom, how misinformed you are
SHAWARMA: its blood sweat and tears game
qolos: lol
superREDS [1d\]: so peaceful 
jeven [6k?\]: :)
]
;B[jo]BL[97.566]C[qolos: philosopy collide
qolos: pardon the spelling i forgot how to spell that word
futsal: b has always 2l
superREDS [1d\]: blood and sweat if for the extremists
]
;W[kn]WL[832.926]C[daft [3d\]: peace is for losers
]
;B[hm]BL[95.048]C[jeven [6k?\]: you know you can ctrl+click a coordinate, right?
superREDS [1d\]: b dead
Stampford [10k\]: KGS couldn't estimate score of this game
SHAWARMA: tears is for the treehuggers
sanjulorf [1k\]: g7 ?
qolos: go can be seen in 2 ways
Pastore [27k\]: jungle ggeorge !
]
;W[gm]WL[813.403]C[qolos: placement of troops
]
;B[ho]BL[91.4]
;W[fn]WL[806.035]C[qolos: or placements of cities
jeven [6k?\]: of cities??
]
;B[gl]BL[80.6]C[qolos: 1 peaceful 1 well not so peaceful
]
;W[hn]WL[778.066]C[jeven [6k?\]: how do you explain capture with cities?
qolos: okay maybe not cities but of coporations
]
;B[io]BL[65.305]C[richilue [3k\]: 90 pt ko   b has no threat big enuf
qolos: again if my spelling is wrong sorry
sanjulorf [1k\]: j10 
sanjulorf [1k\]: now k1 becomes sente for w
]
;W[ij]WL[739.168]C[jeven [6k?\]: instead of excusing yourself so often you should look at what you wrote before sending it :)
sanjulorf [1k\]: or l2 may kill
qolos: nah
qolos: can't be bothered to check ^^
raynolimit [4d\]: k2
]
;B[fm]BL[13.004]C[superREDS [1d\]: its better to excuse urself
]
;W[gn]WL[700.957]C[wong08 [4k\]: testing
]
;B[fs]BL[7.683]C[qolos: b don;t got much time left
qolos: he gonna be rushing
qolos: might make a mistake
sanjulorf [1k\]: e7 first?
]
;W[em]WL[665.933]C[qolos: gg
daft [3d\]: this is OK, B can just connect
murrmurr [6d?\]: aye
qolos: i not sure thats ideal
sanjulorf [1k\]: yes but pointwise w is ahead after this, right?
]
;B[gq]BL[60]OB[5]C[daft [3d\]: ????????
murrmurr [6d?\]: arf
daft [3d\]: G3 is losing move
superREDS [1d\]: always be jokingly serious about what u want to say
daft [3d\]: the whole top B dies
raynolimit [4d\]: ?=???
kukulis4 [2d\]: decided not to clash
sanjulorf [1k\]: b14 ?
qolos: b decided for btm
daft [3d\]: decided to lose you mean?
kukulis4 [2d\]: may be will live somehow
]
;W[el]WL[610.637]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: oh f8 was needed
qolos: double atari
]
;B[hh]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gg]WL[605.099]C[qolos: black done
qolos: centre is white
]
;B[eh]BL[60]OB[5]C[jeven [6k?\]: white is like "i could win by points or i could win by capturing EVERITHYNG!"
qolos: lol
qolos: black can still take btm corner tho
murrmurr [6d?\]: well, black g3 was exact opposite of that
]
;W[ne]WL[543.605]C[qolos: i think b is trying to go for centre
]
;B[me]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: but w really has good grasp of the area
]
;W[mf]WL[524.111]
;B[le]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[lg]WL[510.214]
;B[jh]BL[60]OB[5]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: i wonder that if b died gote at the left or not...
qolos: if b wanted to start a dogfight placement shuld be j9 or e8
qolos: that be intresting lol
]
;W[jj]WL[461.516]C[jeven [6k?\]: i want to see that black placement at e8 :P
]
;B[nf]BL[60]OB[5]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: j14 ?
]
;W[oe]WL[447.694]
;B[mg]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: well if he doesn't then he w8inf on a ko fight
]
;W[oc]WL[439.658]
;B[ob]BL[60]OB[5]C[KGSnoPRO: breakfast breakfast
]
;W[if]WL[427.229]C[jeven [6k?\]: you realize that e8 is taken?
]
;B[kg]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: hm
]
;W[ih]WL[415.8]
;B[fl]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: its begun the dogfight
]
;W[dn]WL[397.111]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: i believe b just died here
]
;B[eo]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: yup most likely white gets that corner
]
;W[en]WL[391.592]C[bwizfoshiz [3k\]: d13 looks promising
]
;B[ch]BL[60]OB[5]C[sanjulorf [1k\]: wow b sometimes plays very good moves
qolos: hmm hard to say
Ponobo [5k\]: left/center dead with D13
]
;W[bh]WL[346.461]
;B[ci]BL[60]OB[5]C[jeven [6k?\]: i'm so glad a pro is going to answer c12 and not me :D
qolos: i think b playing some intresting moves
]
;W[bi]WL[311.849]C[indyra [2k\]: c10 would be a brave move
qolos: would be close to sucide that 1
phoo [3k\]: c7 is coming, right?
]
;B[di]BL[60]OB[5]C[Thale [3k\]: c7 just yose
Odosuiko [5d\]: 1 eye only
qolos: looks like he cutting loses
]
;W[hb]WL[285.338]
;B[ib]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ic]WL[272.807]C[Muttley [?\]: S13 bad aji looks more itneresting to me
]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[5]C[phoo [3k\]: resign
]
;W[pb]WL[265.098]
;B[qb]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: b might be on the ropes but he might just get back
phoo [3k\]: o18 n16 17 18 k17 respectively for w
phoo [3k\]: i think
qolos: true that makes w more structurally sound
behta [1k\]: ... R18 not so good
]
;W[nb]WL[126.179]
;B[pa]BL[60]OB[5]C[MicMac [1d\]: looks like white need h1
MicMac [1d\]: h17
Muttley [?\]: I like H1
qolos: lol
phoo [3k\]: lol for h1
behta [1k\]: no need
phoo [3k\]: haha mis-typing 
Muttley [?\]: though K2 has better false eye shape
Nickless [-\]: l17 
Muttley [?\]: white wants to get L18 in sente, nickless
sameasyou [3d\]: m17 maybe
fire1 [1k\]: n16 better?
Nickless [-\]: m17 n16 k17 h17 its not that simple
Muttley [?\]: not really very easy because white ends up in damezumari in a number of lines
anapazapa [1d\]: so over
jeven [6k?\]: why does he want  L18 in sente?
raynolimit [4d\]: L17
Wiqibest [4k\]: n16
jeven [6k?\]: to capture those two stones?
qolos: [erhaps he trying to get the whole group in 1 shot
Muttley [?\]: to connect under in yose, I thought, (yose)
]
;W[kc]WL[60]OW[4]C[Nickless [-\]: tadaaaaa
Muttley [?\]: you happy bunny :)
]
;B[mb]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: black taking top corner
]
;W[lh]WL[60]OW[4]C[qolos: white fortifying mid
indyra [2k\]: n16 cut very danger for b now
]
;B[lf]BL[60]OB[5]C[Pomme [2d\]: b in trouble
]
;W[md]WL[60]OW[4]C[qolos: he covered it
phoo [3k\]: big trouble!
FreshTooth [2k\]: b dead!
Ponobo [5k\]: white has killed all...
Pomme [2d\]: n18 was a mistake
Ponobo [5k\]: R18 was the mistake
MicMac [1d\]: k17
]
;B[mc]BL[60]OB[5]C[jeven [6k?\]: k17 n17 m18 and b is connected, tight?
jeven [6k?\]: *right
]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[4]C[jeven [6k?\]: oh :(
phoo [3k\]: yep
Wagaboo [4k\]: yeah n18 mistake :(
GoStudent [2d\]: c13 fo blacck is interesting
jeven [6k?\]: you mean n17?
behta [1k\]: N11
jeven [6k?\]: now b died in the centre
qolos: b top corner now has less ground
]
;B[jf]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: i think very clear center is white already
]
;W[ig]WL[60]OW[4]C[M51 [1k\]: l12
M51 [1k\]: n12
M51 [1k\]: l16
Wagaboo [4k\]: b plz resign :)
M51 [1k\]: m17
phoo [3k\]: was w thinking for these moves such a little time! 
M51 [1k\]: j16
M51 [1k\]: h17
]
;B[hc]BL[60]OB[5]C[M51 [1k\]: j15
]
;W[id]WL[60]OW[4]C[qolos: w got great placements
]
;B[ie]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: !?
]
;W[je]WL[60]OW[4]C[Wagaboo [4k\]: no useless
qolos: weird
jeven [6k?\]: wow, b got a ko
Muttley [?\]: not really
Ponobo [5k\]: not sure
MicMac [1d\]: no ko
chingu [3d\]: no ko
Muttley [?\]: take the ko once
Ponobo [5k\]: H17 dead
Wagaboo [4k\]: yeah it's a useless ko
]
;B[pg]BL[60]OB[5]C[M51 [1k\]: but i guess it wouldn't work entirely
]
;W[qg]WL[60]OW[4]C[qolos: does anybody noe what b is doing now
dib [1d\]: w could have l16 k15 g17 so w has a ko, b gottricked
]
;B[ie]BL[60]OB[5]C[gop: black wants to kill l17...?
Koechlin [3d?\]: l16!
Ponobo [5k\]: l16 then G17
Wagaboo [4k\]: l16 
]
;W[kd]WL[60]OW[4]C[Muttley [?\]: heh, w got to deal with M17
Wagaboo [4k\]: just l16
Muttley [?\]: sneaky black
Muttley [?\]: heh
Thale [3k\]: sneaky pro
jeven [6k?\]: b g18 ?
phoo [3k\]: Oh
Wagaboo [4k\]: that ame isn't interesting anymore
phoo [3k\]: i've never think about that move
phoo [3k\]: lol
]
;B[je]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gc]WL[60]OW[4]C[Thale [3k\]: ...
richilue [3k\]: white is far too calm
indyra [2k\]: stubborn black^^
zrrr: why not l18 g18 for b?
Muttley [?\]: black only needs 4 half eyes to live
]
;B[cm]BL[60]OB[5]C[qolos: well white got good placements every where
richilue [3k\]: for handi   he needs someone practicing sword fighting inthe room with him
phoo [3k\]: the best way for b is giving up
qolos: hard to disturb some1 with sturdy walls and lead
richilue [3k\]: hmm  i think a beginner with sharp sword in hand would be at least a bit distracting
richilue [3k\]: specially after the first lamp or 2 go down
Pomme [2d\]: just b9
qolos: that really depends no i think w yose not really his forte
]
;W[bk]WL[60]OW[3]C[Pomme [2d\]: omg i'm too strong
]
;B[cj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bj]WL[60]OW[3]C[Muttley [?\]: this is not sente really
Jasiek [4k\]: L18
Muttley [?\]: just tidying white up
qolos: b got w on the ropes now
qolos: just gotta w8 for the ko punch
phoo [3k\]: l18 isn't big enough right now
asdcav: d7
Thale [3k\]: actually you're wrong
Thale [3k\]: l18 is pretty big
Muttley [?\]: yeah, might be :)
indyra [2k\]: b UL might end up dead too^^
Muttley [?\]: just looking at the eyes
zrrr: l18 is a big threat not a big move
Thale [3k\]: sente at least
]
;B[dm]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ck]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: if white cut his loses he will get top corner
]
;B[ek]BL[60]OB[4]C[phoo [3k\]: c13
indyra [2k\]: g10 
jeven [6k?\]: e11 
phoo [3k\]: or e11
]
;W[rp]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[sp]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[so]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[sq]BL[60]OB[4]C[Muttley [?\]: heheeh
]
;W[rm]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[kb]BL[60]OB[4]C[phu [3k\]: L18 kinda big
]
;W[gd]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: if black opens up the btm left he might get a adavtage in mid
jeven [6k?\]: wow, big loss for w
phoo [3k\]: e11
phoo [3k\]: for w right now
]
;B[lp]BL[60]OB[4]C[Muttley [?\]: w discarded those stones a long time ago, probably jeven
]
;W[mp]WL[60]OW[3]C[harry10k [7k\]: e10
]
;B[lo]BL[60]OB[4]C[jeven [6k?\]: ah, i see
]
;W[mo]WL[60]OW[3]C[jeven [6k?\]: wow
Muttley [?\]: indeed
Muttley [?\]: beeeeg centre
]
;B[lr]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[mr]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ms]BL[60]OB[4]C[jeven [6k?\]: with e=i ? 
]
;W[lq]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[kr]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[lb]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[la]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[lc]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[na]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[rf]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[bb]BL[60]OB[4]C[jlb [3k\]: f10.
jlb [3k\]: ?
]
;W[sd]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: not the chaos and madness begins ^^
qolos: *now
jlb [3k\]: e10 sorry
]
;B[ca]BL[60]OB[4]C[Pomme [2d\]: w should have b19
jeven [6k?\]: cant w capture f9 or d11 by playing e11 ?
]
;W[rc]WL[60]OW[3]C[jlb [3k\]: s17
]
;B[sb]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[rb]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ra]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[sc]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[qc]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[sa]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: well no denying b took top right
Naphthalin [11k\]: e11 looks nice
Naphthalin [11k\]: for w
qolos: but how big that ground gonna be
jeven [6k?\]: exactly ... so why doesnt he play it?
jlb [3k\]: e10 better no?
Naphthalin [11k\]: e10 atari
jeven [6k?\]: e10 is no atari
]
;B[hd]BL[60]OB[4]C[Naphthalin [11k\]: e10 f10 -> connected
GodofGo [6d\]: u mean e11
]
;W[hc]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[sb]BL[60]OB[4]C[jlb [3k\]: it lets possibility for g12
jlb [3k\]: e10 f10 e11
Stampford [10k\]: what white didn;t play at โๅจ
qolos: w fortifications strong
Stampford [10k\]: f10
GodofGo [6d\]: e10 g10 
]
;W[se]WL[60]OW[3]C[Stampford [10k\]: ah see
Stampford [10k\]: can't kill black
MicMac [1d\]: e11 is the threth here
]
;B[db]BL[60]OB[4]C[qolos: but he is not leaving himself alot of ground
GodofGo [6d\]: e11 does nothing too
Stampford [10k\]: black has G11
Stampford [10k\]: which is a key
MicMac [1d\]: e11 tenuki e10
]
;W[dc]WL[60]OW[3]C[Pomme [2d\]: he'sw b19 was bigger than s17 imho
MicMac [1d\]: ?hmm you're right
jeven [6k?\]: oh right, e11 cant capture f9, my bad
]
;B[eb]BL[60]OB[4]C[Pomme [2d\]: h19
]
;W[bf]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[be]BL[60]OB[4]C[GodofGo [6d\]: y is b still playing
qolos: really?
qolos: i think b got a chance
jeven [6k?\]: perhaps b belives in SE
Rawrie [3k\]: k16 is dead
GodofGo [6d\]: are you sure?
qolos: i think but if b makes 1 wrong move
qolos: then its over
Pomme [2d\]: c13
]
;W[fb]WL[60]OW[3]C[ciaz [6k\]: are there SEs on other servers too?
ciaz [6k\]: and also that bad?
jeven [6k?\]: yes
GodofGo [6d\]: b was over long ago
jeven [6k?\]: no
jeven [6k?\]: se on igs is quite good, they use gnugo
jlb [3k\]: g14
]
;B[ej]BL[60]OB[4]C[qolos: i admit w got good formation round the board
]
;W[gj]WL[60]OW[3]C[jeven [6k?\]: and tygem SE is better, too
qolos: and w got centre
]
;B[fj]BL[60]OB[4]C[fishlegs [3d\]: there is no way a 3d can beat 3p with only 2 handicaps
GodofGo [6d\]: yeah
qolos: but b could turn it around
Eup [-\]: nope
GodofGo [6d\]: but w is around kgs 7-8d?
jeven [6k?\]: qolos, what are you talking?
GodofGo [6d\]: qolos whats ur rank...
fishlegs [3d\]: at least 4
]
;W[gh]WL[60]OW[3]C[jeven [6k?\]: i think qolos is 1d troll :)
]
;B[hi]BL[60]OB[4]C[jeven [6k?\]: maybe even pro
qolos: i think b can take btm
GodofGo [6d\]: ok lets wait and see
qolos: but he going for mid
]
;W[ii]WL[60]OW[3]C[jeven [6k?\]: b already *has* the bottom...
GodofGo [6d\]: he cant go for anything .
ciaz [6k\]: sry. but ure not funny
]
;B[fi]BL[60]OB[4]C[qolos: yup
cb22 [2k\]: 40 points loss
qolos: its iver
]
;W[de]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: over
GodofGo [6d\]: yup its iver
]
;B[dg]BL[60]OB[4]C[qolos: black take left side plust 1/3 of btm
ciaz [6k\]: iver = incredibly over
GodofGo [6d\]: qolos what is ur estimate for this game? im interested
qolos: white takes mid and btm right
]
;W[ia]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ka]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ko]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[kp]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[kq]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[hs]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[fg]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: ...
]
;B[df]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ec]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[da]BL[60]OB[4]C[qolos: okay now agree b shuld resign
]
;W[ae]WL[60]OW[3]C[nsss: if b could kill m12 he would win by 3
]
;B[ad]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[af]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[hk]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ik]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[gk]BL[60]OB[4]C[GodofGo [6d\]: pls dont depend on SE
andrew [2d\]: do you suppose breakfast would be 8d or 9d if he was rated?
]
;W[fa]WL[60]OW[3]C[GodofGo [6d\]: around 8d
]
;B[gf]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[sa]WL[60]OW[3]C[GodofGo [6d\]: he lost to ilya and ilya's around 8-9d
Tallis13 [12k\]: has he played twoeyes yet?
zife [-\]: ^
fishlegs [3d\]: B is losing by 30+ pts
Naphthalin [11k\]: artem92 and roln111 are around his rank
Naphthalin [11k\]: according to egf
]
;B[mh]BL[60]OB[4]C[GodofGo [6d\]: yeah they're about the same rank
]
;W[li]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[sb]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[hf]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[qa]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ha]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[sa]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ja]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[ma]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ea]WL[60]OW[3]C[qolos: well b is trying to minimize w ground but 
]
;B[ba]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[]BL[60]OB[4]TW[ga][gb][fd][hd][jd][ie][je][ke][le][me][jf][kf][lf][mf][nf][of][sf][ag][kg][mg][ng][og][pg][rg][sg][ah][jh][kh][mh][nh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][ai][ji][ki][mi][ni][oi][qi][ri][si][aj][kj][mj][oj][pj][sj][ak][jk][kk][lk][mk][nk][ok][pk][qk][rk][sk][al][bl][jl][ml][nl][ol][pl][ql][rl][sl][km][lm][nm][om][sm][mn][nn][on][pn][qn][rn][sn][no][oo][qo][ro][np][op][pp]TB[aa][oa][ab][nb][pb][ac][bd][dh][ei][el][em][gm][dn][en][fn][gn][hn][bo][co][do][fo][go][ap][cp][ep][fp][gp][aq][bq][cq][fq][hq][iq][ar][br][er][hr][jr][qr][rr][sr][as][bs][ds][es][gs][is][js][ks][ls][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[GodofGo [6d\]: he isnt
GodofGo [6d\]: that was a ko threat...
ggeorge [3d\]: wow
Stampford [10k\]: jigo
cb22 [2k\]: 40 points !
ggeorge [3d\]: thank you
Stampford [10k\]: wow
breakfast [3p\]: thx
GodofGo [6d\]: u see the diff. in territory?...
breakfast [3p\]: too many weak groups
ggeorge [3d\]: indeed
breakfast [3p\]: not the best way to play on handicap
Stampford [10k\]: oh
Stampford [10k\]: sorry
breakfast [3p\]: review?
Stampford [10k\]: not jigo
ggeorge [3d\]: please
breakfast [3p\]: pls press done first
Pomme [2d\]: yea review please
])
(;B[oq]
;W[pr]
;B[mk]C[breakfast [3p\]: too many weak groups
ggeorge [3d\]: i ve been a litle gready here
breakfast [3p\]: just defend them
breakfast [3p\]: yes
]))
(;B[qq]C[breakfast [3p\]: 3-3 usually
]
;W[oq]
;B[qo]
;W[qn]
;B[pp]
;W[op]
;B[rn]
;W[pn]
;B[rm]C[phoo [3k\]: so sorry
breakfast [3p\]: my wall is useless
ggeorge [3d\]: yes, this is nice
]))
(;B[cj]
;W[dj]
;B[ci]
;W[di]
;B[ch]C[phoo [3k\]: IamSAII 
breakfast [3p\]: still important to get base
]))
(;B[bh]C[breakfast [3p\]: finish it
ggeorge [3d\]: i see
]))
(;B[ce]
;W[cc]
;B[cg]
;W[fc]
;B[bc]
;W[cb]
;B[bi]C[breakfast [3p\]: joseki
]))
