(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]HA[5]KM[0.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[jeff72]WR[3p]BR[10k]DT[2010-06-02]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]AB[dd][pd][jj][dp][pp]C[breakfast [3p\]: Have a nice game!
breakfast [3p\]: review?
]RE[W+71.50]
(;W[qf]WL[1777.816]C[jeff72 [10k\]: good game
]
;B[pf]BL[1772.57]
;W[pg]WL[1767.175]
;B[of]BL[1764.333]
;W[re]WL[1760.161]
(;B[qd]BL[1755.671]C[jeff72 [10k\]: yes !
]
;W[qj]WL[1754.612]
(;B[nd]BL[1740.029]
;W[nq]WL[1735.173]
;B[qn]BL[1723.438]
;W[gp]WL[1717.43]
;B[eq]BL[1675.983]
;W[cf]WL[1692.153]
;B[ch]BL[1665.604]
;W[gd]WL[1689.106]
;B[ee]BL[1647.885]
;W[cc]WL[1686.759]
;B[cd]BL[1633.693]
;W[bd]WL[1669.388]
(;B[be]BL[1610.337]C[moonscar [-\]: alexandre, are comments from the viewers allowed during the review? some people tend to differ in reviewing styles.
breakfast [3p\]: yes, sure
breakfast [3p\]: you can ask
]
;W[bb]WL[1661.076]
(;B[ce]BL[1592.355]
;W[fc]WL[1656.144]C[moonscar [-\]: actually, you already said what i thought might be a good point to make. :) thanks for allowing anyway
breakfast [3p\]: B is super thivck
breakfast [3p\]: no reason to defend
]
(;B[df]BL[1577.411]
;W[pr]WL[1643.693]
;B[qq]BL[1561.022]
;W[kq]WL[1640.684]
;B[cm]BL[1550.064]
;W[lc]WL[1611.129]
;B[mb]BL[1485.267]
;W[fr]WL[1587.716]
;B[er]BL[1454.084]
;W[co]WL[1555.908]
;B[cp]BL[1439.65]
;W[bp]WL[1526.069]
;B[do]BL[1384.509]
;W[cn]WL[1457.953]
(;B[bq]BL[1342.297]
;W[dn]WL[1423.509]
;B[fq]BL[1293.294]
;W[cl]WL[1408.644]
;B[fo]BL[1260.878]C[Targund [-\]: d7 make tengen working
]
;W[lb]WL[1378.88]C[jeff72 [10k\]: ok, i see
]
(;B[le]BL[1194.951]
;W[jd]WL[1241.443]
;B[ql]BL[1165.4]C[Targund [-\]: u dont need to kill)
]
;W[qk]WL[1194.404]
;B[dk]BL[1072.776]
;W[ck]WL[1123.816]
;B[dj]BL[1056.965]
;W[bm]WL[1070.731]C[moonscar [-\]: jeff, just play calm, even when you attack, play a calm attack, one that is sturdy and has reinforcement.  so targund is right, no need to kill, just attack ;)
breakfast [3p\]: close game already
breakfast [3p\]: yes, true
Targund [-\]: as Kageyama said
breakfast [3p\]: in this game B was too soft
]
;B[cj]BL[1046.692]
;W[rd]WL[1058.26]
;B[rc]BL[1010.311]
;W[rl]WL[1042.305]
;B[rm]BL[954.591]
;W[pl]WL[993.335]
;B[qm]BL[936.671]
;W[nb]WL[970.319]
;B[ob]BL[918.742]
;W[nc]WL[876.509]C[Targund [-\]: ull never try to play broken ladder)
]
(;B[oc]BL[911.266]
;W[md]WL[806.62]
;B[ne]BL[871.121]
;W[sc]WL[781.331]
;B[rb]BL[829.477]
;W[gq]WL[736.245]SQ[nb][rl][gq]C[moonscar [-\]: it is ok to be soft sometimes, some have a passive style, but there is (always) time for attack
]
;B[gf]BL[784.511]
;W[qr]WL[684.455]
;B[rr]BL[743.418]
;W[ao]WL[630.815]
;B[kd]BL[702.525]
;W[jc]WL[581.059]
;B[je]BL[663.692]
;W[hn]WL[547.305]
;B[dl]BL[634.884]
;W[dm]WL[537.789]
;B[gl]BL[610.526]
;W[gr]WL[479.562]
;B[im]BL[549.004]
;W[ie]WL[466.925]
;B[if]BL[535.202]
;W[he]WL[435.7]
;B[hf]BL[529.957]
;W[li]WL[400.179]
;B[nh]BL[456.584]
;W[lk]WL[376.099]
;B[nj]BL[446.582]
;W[lm]WL[335.739]
;B[nl]BL[438.508]
;W[jn]WL[260.792]
;B[no]BL[398.23]
;W[jm]WL[243.393]
;B[jl]BL[360.045]
;W[kl]WL[227.464]
;B[in]BL[292.135]
;W[io]WL[219.681]
;B[pk]BL[260.1]
;W[pj]WL[211.428]
;B[ok]BL[256.062]
;W[il]WL[198.028]
;B[hl]BL[244.922]
;W[jk]WL[174.25]
;B[ik]BL[234.538]
;W[hm]WL[153.993]
;B[kj]BL[189.05]
;W[lj]WL[33.895]
;B[kh]BL[171.772]
;W[ki]WL[24.642]
;B[ji]BL[156.222]
;W[lh]WL[20.982]
;B[kg]BL[150.241]
;W[fm]WL[12.616]
;B[qg]BL[122.004]
;W[rg]WL[4.44]
;B[qh]BL[119.258]
;W[ph]WL[241.17]
;B[rh]BL[111.917]
;W[ri]WL[236.082]
;B[sg]BL[95.452]
;W[rf]WL[227.256]
;B[sd]BL[63.379]
;W[se]WL[204.427]
;B[sb]BL[54.764]
;W[rk]WL[191.578]
;B[qe]BL[38.536]
;W[qi]WL[180.931]
;B[sd]BL[32.792]
;W[sh]WL[167.675]
;B[oq]BL[11.285]
;W[or]WL[158.465]
;B[np]BL[8.227]
;W[mq]WL[149.445]
;B[lp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[mp]WL[146.421]
;B[mo]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[lo]WL[133.792]
;B[ln]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ko]WL[131.763]
;B[mm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[fl]WL[124.017]
;B[fk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hk]WL[118.181]
;B[gk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ij]WL[114.698]
;B[hj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ii]WL[111.176]
;B[hi]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[jh]WL[108.24]
;B[ih]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kk]WL[9.958]
;B[jg]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[pq]WL[1.347]
;B[op]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[rq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[sr]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[rp]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[rs]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[lg]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ae]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[bf]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[oa]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pa]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[na]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[gc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gb]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ec]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[eb]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[fd]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hc]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[kc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kb]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ge]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ld]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ke]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[br]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[cr]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[aq]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[cq]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[fp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[dr]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ar]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[bs]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[eo]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[es]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[cs]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ic]WL[286.212]
;B[ma]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[mc]WL[258.14]
;B[ka]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[la]WL[243.044]
;B[me]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bj]WL[228.837]
;B[bi]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bk]WL[192.572]
;B[af]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[dc]WL[163.538]
;B[ad]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bc]WL[131.777]
;B[aj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ak]WL[129.957]
;B[ai]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[gm]WL[127.839]
;B[el]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[em]WL[117.094]
;B[mh]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[og]WL[115.092]
;B[ng]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kn]WL[111.484]
;B[mn]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ji]WL[109.963]
;B[ac]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ab]WL[103.355]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[sp]WL[97.65]
;B[so]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[sq]WL[96.228]
;B[sl]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[sk]WL[91.772]
;B[sm]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ed]WL[87.643]
;B[fe]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[oi]WL[77.629]
;B[ni]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[mk]WL[70.327]
;B[nk]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ml]WL[64.082]
;B[ib]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hb]WL[59.739]
;B[ma]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ja]WL[54.06]
;B[sc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ec]WL[37.897]
;B[]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[ik]WL[26.88]
;B[hh]BL[60]OB[5]C[moonscar [-\]: hm?
breakfast [3p\]: sorry
]
(;W[]WL[26.879]
;B[]BL[60]OB[5]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ka][ma][cb][db][fb][ib][jb][mb][gc][hd][id][sf][qg][sg][qh][rh][pi][si][jj][kj][rj][sj][al][bl][jl][ll][am][cm][im][km][an][bn][en][fn][gn][in][bo][do][fo][go][ho][jo][ap][cp][dp][ep][hp][ip][jp][kp][lp][bq][cq][dq][eq][fq][hq][iq][jq][lq][cr][dr][er][hr][ir][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][rr][as][bs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][ss]TB[qa][ra][sa][pb][qb][pc][qc][od][de][oe][pe][cf][ef][ff][jf][kf][lf][mf][nf][ag][bg][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][ig][mg][ah][bh][dh][eh][fh][gh][ci][di][ei][fi][gi][ej][fj][gj][ek][ol][pl][nm][om][pm][nn][on][pn][rn][sn][oo][po][qo][ro]C[moonscar [-\]: good game both
breakfast [3p\]: thx!
])
(;W[]WL[24.987]
;B[]BL[60]OB[5]TW[qg][qh][rh][pi][si][jj][kj][rj][sj][al][bl][jl][ll][am][cm][im][km][an][bn][in][bo][rr][ss]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][fa][ga][ha][ia][ja][ka][la][na][oa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][db][eb][fb][gb][hb][ib][jb][kb][lb][mb][nb][pb][qb][bc][cc][dc][ec][fc][gc][hc][ic][jc][lc][mc][nc][pc][qc][bd][ed][gd][hd][id][jd][ld][md][od][de][he][ie][oe][pe][cf][ef][ff][jf][kf][lf][mf][nf][ag][bg][cg][dg][eg][fg][gg][hg][ig][mg][ah][bh][dh][eh][fh][gh][ci][di][ei][fi][gi][ej][fj][gj][ek][ol][pl][nm][om][pm][nn][on][pn][rn][sn][oo][po][qo][ro]))
(;B[iq]C[breakfast [3p\]: problem is: I got all important places
Targund [-\]: so  dont ever try to kill a group, than cannot be killed
]))
(;B[bm]C[breakfast [3p\]: still -
breakfast [3p\]: if you plan to use tengen -
]
;W[dm]C[jeff72 [10k\]: (usually i don't try to kill the master :)))
]
;B[bl]C[breakfast [3p\]: steal my base!
]
;W[ck]
;B[bk]
;W[cj]
;B[bj]
;W[ek]
;B[gk]C[breakfast [3p\]: good attack anyway
breakfast [3p\]: and you take cash by attacking
]))
(;B[dm]C[breakfast [3p\]: possible?
breakfast [3p\]: complicated, but may try to kill
breakfast [3p\]: yes
]))
(;B[jp]LB[df:A]C[breakfast [3p\]: invade!
breakfast [3p\]: A
breakfast [3p\]: biggest mistake
]
;W[df]
;B[bf]C[breakfast [3p\]: even if I can run -
breakfast [3p\]: no problems at all
]))
(;B[ad]
;W[bc]
;B[ce]))
(;B[dc]
;W[bb]
;B[cb]
;W[bc]
;B[jd]C[breakfast [3p\]: better direction
breakfast [3p\]: nice moyo on the top!
]))
(;B[jc]C[jeff72 [10k\]: ok :)
breakfast [3p\]: B is thick, so
breakfast [3p\]: can extend far
]))
(;B[rd]
;W[qd]
;B[qc]
;W[qe]
;B[pc]
;W[qj]
;B[jc]C[breakfast [3p\]: joseki
]))
(;W[cf]
;B[ch]
;W[cc]
;B[cd]
;W[dc]
;B[ed]
;W[bd]
;B[be]
;W[bc]
;B[ce]
;W[fc]C[breakfast [3p\]: same shape
]
(;B[df]C[Targund [-\]: k4 !
breakfast [3p\]: D14 is not necessary
breakfast [3p\]: yes
Targund [-\]: or q10 
breakfast [3p\]: take sente!
])
(;B[jp]
;W[ef]C[breakfast [3p\]: if I jump -
]
;B[bf]C[breakfast [3p\]: just link
moonscar [-\]: hm..
breakfast [3p\]: so, try to be more active in fuseki next time
Targund [-\]: this group is burden for w
breakfast [3p\]: see you again, jeff!
])))
