(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[-20.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[breakfast]PB[smonds3]WR[3p]BR[1d]DT[2011-11-12]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[smonds3 [1d\]: thanks. enjoy !
]RE[W+5.50]
(;B[qd]BL[1784.678]C[breakfast [3p\]: sorry, KGS crushed
smonds3 [1d\]: yes and window came up and i tried to close and hit pass instead ;)
breakfast [3p\]: good game!
]
;W[dc]WL[1729.1]
;B[cp]BL[1780.428]
;W[pq]WL[1724.963]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: what does 3p mean?
]
;B[eq]BL[1775.035]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: 3d?
]
;W[cf]WL[1719.987]
;B[qo]BL[1769.649]C[rmod [2k?\]: pro rank
]
;W[od]WL[1716.653]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: i still donot understand, sorry for that
FRANKXU [4k\]: rmod, could you please explain?
frostwindf: professional 3dan
frostwindf: they are ok palyers
rmod [2k?\]: the p is only used for professional go players
FRANKXU [4k\]: oh, i see now, thanks
Zetsun [1d?\]: Pft, sandbagger.
]
;B[oc]BL[1634.941]C[Ir8a [1k\]: do this game affect b's rank
]
;W[nc]WL[1712.04]
;B[pc]BL[1632.876]C[sabakusoso [-\]: no
]
;W[ng]WL[1707.226]C[LastAngel [?\]: no hc? o.0
]
;B[qg]BL[1613.292]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: god, he is unusual
FRANKXU [4k\]:  i mean o13
]
;W[dk]WL[1651.869]C[Ir8a [1k\]: not sure abotu un usual
Ir8a [1k\]: i'd say aggresive
FRANKXU [4k\]: apparently he is very ambitious
]
;B[fc]BL[1592.181]
;W[hc]WL[1648.638]C[Ir8a [1k\]: yea
]
;B[de]BL[1589.687]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: yes, that is the word
FRANKXU [4k\]: this is to invite enemy to attack and trap them
]
;W[ce]WL[1575.403]
;B[db]BL[1575.385]
;W[cc]WL[1571.944]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: i mean pitfall creater
RamsesII [1d?\]: O13 classic takemya move
]
;B[fe]BL[1560.337]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: i see, i learn a lot, thx
]
;W[op]WL[1550.798]
;B[kq]BL[1548.745]
;W[cn]WL[1544.111]
;B[nq]BL[1504.884]
;W[np]WL[1522.881]
;B[mq]BL[1501.86]
;W[pn]WL[1508.833]
;B[qn]BL[1495.796]
;W[pl]WL[1493.336]
;B[pm]BL[1462.347]
;W[om]WL[1482.569]C[RamsesII [1d?\]: It looks like white is building toward the center
]
;B[qm]BL[1459.001]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: yes, from the very beginning 
]
;W[ok]WL[1460.815]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: he is very elastic
RamsesII [1d?\]: good choice probably because territory is not so important at the beginning
Polonaise [4d\]: Too bad B will probably end in gote here
FRANKXU [4k\]: hi, polon, what is gote please?
smonds3 [1d\]: around then
]
;B[qq]BL[1267.348]
;W[qr]WL[1454.822]C[RamsesII [1d?\]: loosing the initiative
FRANKXU [4k\]: thx
Wagaboo [4k\]: as w i would add a move on the top :D
mamalujo [?\]: this is one of a couple simultaneous games breakfast is playing now against not-as-strong opponents or?
]
;B[rq]BL[1244.173]C[RamsesII [1d?\]: maybe h15
]
;W[eo]WL[1398.43]C[mamalujo [?\]: ah, right, sry, it says so in the info..
]
;B[fp]BL[1222.689]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Eh, I think he should've given b at least 2 stones, even though it's a simul
]
;W[fo]WL[1341.353]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Oh, nvm -20 komi
RamsesII [1d?\]: it is probably only a teaching game though
Polonaise [4d\]: -20 is a big big komi =p
Wagaboo [4k\]: g4 looks so nice
]
;B[gp]BL[1150.304]C[Polonaise [4d\]: If b ends in gote here too, f15 will get attacked hard
Polonaise [4d\]: So that w can build from his influence
]
;W[fg]WL[1319.106]C[RamsesII [1d?\]: yep that seems to be the right target
mamalujo [?\]: not meaning to be impolite, but, FRANKXU, how come one gets to play go as decently as 4k, yet avoid hearing its jargon, like gote, or pro ranks?
breakfast [3p\]: till now - all correct
breakfast [3p\]: I did not notice any mistakes
]
;B[he]BL[1063.364]
;W[jd]WL[1316.028]C[RamsesII [1d?\]: now it is like direct debit w will get money from the attack
FRANKXU [4k\]: sorry, i just play
mamalujo [?\]: hehe, nice philosophy :)
FRANKXU [4k\]: i really should familiarize myself with the jargon and terns
]
;B[gc]BL[1030.605]C[RamsesII [1d?\]: I think it is pretty good to get 4k without knowing it
AgntCooper [3k\]: does he plan these simuls?  or he just whenever he feels like it?
FRANKXU [4k\]: hahaha , thanks
]
;W[hd]WL[1302.059]
;B[cb]BL[1027.027]
;W[bb]WL[1294.123]
;B[ec]BL[992.064]C[breakfast [3p\]: good sabaki
]
;W[lo]WL[1270.077]C[Polonaise [4d\]: The shape is kinda pretty )
FRANKXU [4k\]: i played a bit in my twenties, now i started again in my fifties
RamsesII [1d?\]: :)
FRANKXU [4k\]: from may this year, i started as 9k
jesiminea: hey does he play 4 game in the same time?
croll [5k\]: какая сила концентрируется у белых в центре =))
]
;B[nb]BL[910.554]C[mamalujo [?\]: says so in the 'active games' window, jesiminea
FRANKXU [4k\]: now i see the importance of O13
FRANKXU [4k\]: it is one of the key stones
Polonaise [4d\]: o18 I don't like
jesiminea: yes it helps w
smonds3 [1d\]: i didn't know if i should just start with 2 shimari game too ;)
]
;W[mc]WL[1168.956]C[Goprince [3d\]: dam i missed  the simultaneous games =(
Polonaise [4d\]: Were you going to play?
nah [2d\]: o18 is a great move which takes into account the whole board
]
(;B[dd]BL[877.636]C[Goprince [3d\]: sure
FRANKXU [4k\]: why not 016?
]
;W[cd]WL[1120.714]C[jesiminea: or n17
FRANKXU [4k\]: dear goprince, could you explain?
barasan [12k\]: Does breakfast play simultaneous game constantly?
Goprince [3d\]: he will play if you are part of the korean insei league
smonds3 [1d\]: fearful of 2 i problem
]
(;B[ff]BL[801.033]C[Polonaise [4d\]: huh..
nah [2d\]: Either b should play in the center or start playing chess
]
;W[eg]WL[1083.611]C[Kilik [1k\]: haha
Polonaise [4d\]: f14 is a "Thank you very much" move..
smonds3 [1d\]: no komi*
breakfast [3p\]: even with 6.5 komi
breakfast [3p\]: B is still ok
]
;B[jo]BL[785.664]
;W[go]WL[1049.436]
;B[hp]BL[781.726]C[mamalujo [?\]: sry, what, you mean the kgs insel league he describes to be in "korean style" in user info, or literally, korean insei league?
Goprince [3d\]: the style
Polonaise [4d\]: korean style
Goprince [3d\]: og course not real korean insei's =/
mamalujo [?\]: right, makes sense
Goprince [3d\]: of*
Polonaise [4d\]: =p
Polonaise [4d\]: I'm feeling 20 reverse komi isn't going to be enough
Polonaise [4d\]: Because yose goes to w, obviously =p
]
;W[ca]WL[942.822]
;B[ea]BL[771.69]
;W[mb]WL[901.299]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Btw that cat looks cute)
]
;B[qk]BL[677.609]
;W[gd]WL[892.917]C[jesiminea: the cat let me think about twoeyes
kis [6k\]: h14?
jesiminea: h13
]
;B[fd]BL[611.819]C[breakfast [3p\]: B head big lead here, so
breakfast [3p\]: you played too softly later
breakfast [3p\]: had*
smonds3 [1d\]: i have that problem
smonds3 [1d\]: with no weak groups for both sides
smonds3 [1d\]: then i play soft
breakfast [3p\]: yes
breakfast [3p\]: saw it
breakfast [3p\]: ok, 1 am here, have to sleep now, thx again and see you!
smonds3 [1d\]: because i don't know what to do if can't attack or make big invasion
smonds3 [1d\]: okay
smonds3 [1d\]: thank you!
]
;W[hg]WL[852.882]C[barasan [12k\]: K8
kis [6k\]: j8
qQQp [-\]: w6
nah [2d\]: it is a one-eyed cat in the picture
]
;B[hf]BL[478.664]C[Polonaise [4d\]: b lost a gazillion in 3 moves o18 f14 f16 
barasan [12k\]: K14
Polonaise [4d\]: k5 also wasn't too great
smonds3 [1d\]:  but in a no moki game. black is down here though right?
]
;W[in]WL[823.429]C[mamalujo [?\]: 20 rev komi is about equivalent to 2 rank difference, so half-way between 1 and 2 handicap w no komi, no?
AutoAtari [2k\]: but b has a cat picture
nah [2d\]: 140 reversed comi would not help b
]
;B[ig]BL[342.297]
;W[hh]WL[767.597]
(;B[lg]BL[316.693]
;W[jn]WL[678.407]C[Corvin [3k\]: w +102  ?
]
(;B[ke]BL[264.128]
;W[ji]WL[669.954]LB[ke:1][lg:2]C[breakfast [3p\]: both are too slow
breakfast [3p\]: gote
breakfast [3p\]: now the game is very close
smonds3 [1d\]: ah. yes. so bad on being slack around late midgame
breakfast [3p\]: yes
smonds3 [1d\]: do you mind about going to mv 34
smonds3 [1d\]: i was a little lost on best things
]
;B[kd]BL[237.552]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Oh, cats..
nguenkk: THIS........
jesiminea: omg b'move always be ignored
Corvin [3k\]: n11
Polonaise [4d\]: Who WOULDN'T ignore m13..
]
;W[kc]WL[605.609]
;B[bo]BL[221.011]
;W[bn]WL[599.846]C[Pampero [5k\]: someone should ban cat's pics
Polonaise [4d\]: I can't believe that from move 54 w got e13 g5 j6 k6 h13 h12 k11 
Polonaise [4d\]: All of those
jesiminea: i think b is on tilt
Pampero [5k\]: Gote is good
]
;B[an]BL[173.942]
;W[am]WL[596.091]
;B[ao]BL[171.253]
;W[bl]WL[585.66]C[Pampero [5k\]: when gote is big enough it becomes sente
]
;B[df]BL[167.775]C[ShenTe [4k\]: m11 
nguenkk: THIS...................
]
;W[dg]WL[552.001]
;B[je]BL[151.822]C[Polonaise [4d\]: k15, really?
]
;W[mi]WL[537.921]C[Polonaise [4d\]: ..
nguenkk: ..
Pampero [5k\]: hes only Kgs 1Dan
qQQp [-\]: Never a moyo became territory with so little fight
]
;B[pi]BL[107.432]C[Polonaise [4d\]: I know he is but.. k15, really??
Pampero [5k\]: this way black is forced to invade or reduce pro player land
nguenkk: yes k15 was strange
nguenkk: k15?? ...
]
;W[oi]WL[513.798]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: you are right, b does not fight hard at all
jesiminea: he is not like 1Dan  like 15k...
FRANKXU [4k\]: w got the centre so easy
nguenkk: he plays like a 7k
Pampero [5k\]: come on, be nice
Polonaise [4d\]: He fell apart after o18
Polonaise [4d\]: One gote move after another
nah [2d\]: be nice to 7k
Pampero [5k\]: lets see how you play
Archron [3k\]: oh my moyo
nguenkk: this....................
]
;B[pj]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hb]WL[495.356]
;B[gb]BL[60]OB[5]C[jesiminea: ignore again
nah [2d\]: g18-not good
Polonaise [4d\]: p18 
]
;W[ob]WL[462.322]C[lupi [3k\]: it seems close if b plays good yose
FRANKXU [4k\]: game is over, w has too much territory
]
;B[pb]BL[60]OB[5]C[Corvin [3k\]: no, he has only one
jesiminea: ha
jesiminea: yes
]
;W[na]WL[427.252]C[jesiminea: he only has two territory
]
;B[ih]BL[60]OB[5]C[barasan [12k\]: I think three.
Redgold [7k\]: do you think that b has a chance to live in center?
lupi [3k\]: no..
lupi [3k\]: i would try to atttach at m11 first ho
lupi [3k\]: before doing this forcing move
]
;W[ii]WL[296.231]
;B[ko]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[kn]WL[291.131]C[FRANKXU [4k\]: even 3k is playing much better with breakfast at the moment
fjiel [2k\]: ohoh^^
lupi [3k\]: lol well..
lupi [3k\]: dont bash the guy so much
Pampero [5k\]: but this black got no handicap
Pampero [5k\]: no handi vs pro level player
Polonaise [4d\]: He got reverse 20 komi
]
;B[li]BL[60]OB[4]C[lupi [3k\]: ithis is teaching game so no need for w to win a large way
Polonaise [4d\]: In a teaching game
Pampero [5k\]: hes doing better than me
smonds3 [1d\]: on what to do
]
;W[lj]WL[270.947]C[qQQp [-\]: its the attitude. If he died trying we would praise him
Pampero [5k\]: so you will praise me for sure :-)
]
;B[ki]BL[60]OB[4]C[Redgold [7k\]: nah.  he is good.  THe problem is, not many amature go players stand any chances at all against breakfast.
]
;W[kj]WL[257.128]C[Pampero [5k\]: amateur
]
;B[lp]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[mo]WL[247.935]C[lupi [3k\]: but yes
lupi [3k\]: it seems like game over
Pampero [5k\]: SE says B + 10
]
;B[or]BL[60]OB[4]C[lupi [3k\]: hm
lupi [3k\]: black got a 20moku komi?
lupi [3k\]: didnt realise..
lupi [3k\]: thats pretty large
alcatrazz [3k\]: so w needs 35 points?
]
;W[pr]WL[166.465]C[Pampero [5k\]: p6
Corvin [3k\]: it looks w 0,5 for me!
clicisclic [8k\]: p6 works?
alcatrazz [3k\]: with the 20 point komi?
Pampero [5k\]: no
Corvin [3k\]: so so close, I think
Redgold [7k\]: K12 looks super important for b...
]
;B[oq]BL[60]OB[4]C[clicisclic [8k\]: k12 or p15 
]
;W[po]WL[163.887]C[es005k [3k\]: l13
]
;B[qp]BL[60]OB[4]C[es005k [3k\]: not k12
]
;W[pp]WL[147.117]C[Corvin [3k\]: b ahead now... What dan players think?
Albireo [?\]: K12
Pampero [5k\]: Dan players dont think, they read and count
alcatrazz [3k\]: look like about 10 point
es005k [3k\]: nvm
]
;B[ho]BL[60]OB[4]C[Polonaise [4d\]: k17 big and sente
st21 [1d\]: w+05
]
;W[hn]WL[91.016]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Also defends against w k13 
Corvin [3k\]: i told you
]
;B[pe]BL[60]OB[4]C[alcatrazz [3k\]: b has 100 points more or less
]
;W[kg]WL[73.76]C[Pampero [5k\]: B may even die here
Hikky [3k\]: B won't die; he has two eyes
Corvin [3k\]: uh, this looks kinde of "good move"
barasan [12k\]: White has about 100moku.
Polonaise [4d\]: k17 
Corvin [3k\]: kind*
FRANKXU [4k\]: L13 excellent
]
;B[lh]BL[60]OB[4]C[alcatrazz [3k\]: so it is close
Hikky [3k\]: L13 is the slapping tesuji, it's a good move, definitely
Pampero [5k\]: m14 
Polonaise [4d\]: I can't believe he connected..
Tombetoile [1d\]: yep b in difficult positin
Hikky [3k\]: haha.  I am reading every other possibility aside from connection as bad
alcatrazz [3k\]: do you believe he can fly?
Polonaise [4d\]: connection is the worst
Polonaise [4d\]: Should've k17 ages ago
]
;W[jh]WL[60]OW[5]C[Redgold [7k\]: ya, polon is no kidding
Hikky [3k\]: Polonaise where else would you have played instead of connection?
barasan [12k\]: Black has 100moku, too.
alcatrazz [3k\]: what is better than the connect?
Corvin [3k\]: w has just won this game
Pampero [5k\]: k12 was better 
Pampero [5k\]: or k17
]
;B[lf]BL[60]OB[3]C[Redgold [7k\]: N15? maybe?
Polonaise [4d\]: I said like 5 times already
alcatrazz [3k\]: k12? wouldn't w disconnect the whole group?
Polonaise [4d\]: What I would've played
Polonaise [4d\]: Instead of q15 btw
Polonaise [4d\]: Before w could l13
]
;W[pa]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[qb]BL[60]OB[3]C[jesiminea: i think polonaise means b shouldnt let w connected
Darius00 [3d\]: polonaise r u polish or french ?
Hikky [3k\]: connect to what, l13?
alcatrazz [3k\]: b fix shaope in sente
]
;W[ql]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[rl]BL[60]OB[3]C[alcatrazz [3k\]: or from micronesia
]
;W[rm]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[pk]BL[60]OB[3]C[Polonaise [4d\]: What I don't get is why w didn't hane at m14
Pampero [5k\]: there are Chopin fans everywhere
FRANKXU [4k\]: b has quite a few places to be strenghthened
Darius00 [3d\]: because it's a pedagogic game
smonds3 [1d\]: i was lost around then
]
;W[ol]WL[60]OW[5]C[Polonaise [4d\]: I guess..
FRANKXU [4k\]: like left lower corner
Polonaise [4d\]: But it would be more pedagogic to show that m12 was bad
Hikky [3k\]: W didn't hane at M14, because K12, L12, L14.  no?
FRANKXU [4k\]: if w d3
Polonaise [4d\]: If black k12 w j14
Polonaise [4d\]: Then w can disconnect b or atari and connect and kill m13
Hikky [3k\]: then B connects at L12
]
;B[rk]BL[60]OB[3]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Then b has 1 eye
Hikky [3k\]: you're saying then there is no eye at F18?
Polonaise [4d\]: k15 will be disconnected from h15
]
;W[dp]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[dq]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[co]WL[60]OW[5]C[Polonaise [4d\]: After the aforementioned sequence
]
;B[bq]BL[60]OB[3]C[Hikky [3k\]: but B can connect around O14 no?
FRANKXU [4k\]: why not d3?
FRANKXU [4k\]: but d4?
fatih [4d\]: not to lose points
]
;W[io]WL[60]OW[5]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Not really, hikky, he can't
]
;B[ip]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[qa]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[ra]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[oa]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[id]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[jc]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[jg]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[rb]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[rc]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[sa]WL[60]OW[5]
;B[sc]BL[60]OB[3]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Aaaand he played j16
Polonaise [4d\]: lol
]
;W[rr]WL[60]OW[5]C[Redgold [7k\]: well, that is one way to llook at things
]
;B[oj]BL[60]OB[3]C[Polonaise [4d\]: Now t3 is sente
Redgold [7k\]: 09iuj8h7yj6 qs
BadMove [-\]: s6 
Polonaise [4d\]: S2 was so big
jtscarry [4k\]: weren't both s18 and s2 bigger than k13?
]
;W[nj]WL[60]OW[4]C[Polonaise [4d\]: They were
Polonaise [4d\]: s18 more so
]
;B[ha]BL[60]OB[3]C[none [6k\]: hey how about j18 for b
none [6k\]: ?
nue [3k\]: b is lost?
Redgold [7k\]: P13 looks big for b now...:(
none [6k\]: before h19
]
;W[ib]WL[60]OW[3]C[BadMove [-\]: b is ruin
barasan [12k\]: White has 100moku, Black has 70moku.
]
;B[kh]BL[60]OB[3]C[Hikky [3k\]: black also has 20.5 moku reverse komi
Pampero [5k\]: w doesnt gave gote moves
zflyhorse [1k\]: very  close
]
;W[sq]WL[60]OW[3]C[Pampero [5k\]: w wins
]
;B[sp]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[sr]WL[60]OW[3]C[Goprince [3d\]: w won
qQQp [-\]: what is the point/moku exchange today?
Redgold [7k\]: sigh.  T3 sente
sabakusoso [-\]: not sure again
sabakusoso [-\]: it's very close
nue [3k\]: what is moku?
sabakusoso [-\]: point
]
;B[sn]BL[60]OB[3]C[Pampero [5k\]: points
nue [3k\]: ty
BadMove [-\]: s5 
nue [3k\]: q16
]
;W[pd]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[qc]BL[60]OB[3]C[nue [3k\]: p15 sente aswell
Pampero [5k\]: s5 is pro  move
barasan [12k\]: T6 was needed?
]
;W[oe]WL[60]OW[3]
;B[pf]BL[60]OB[3]C[Hikky [3k\]: if W S5 B S6.
Redgold [7k\]: probably P 12 for the following?
nue [3k\]: ws5 b s6
Pampero [5k\]: barasan, click vioew offline and see
BadMove [-\]: s6 then
Hikky [3k\]: then B S5.
Hikky [3k\]: they are miai
nue [3k\]: you no read?
Pampero [5k\]: hes 12k
BadMove [-\]: i read no indeed
Pampero [5k\]: oh, you mean BadMove?
]
;W[oh]WL[60]OW[2]C[Pampero [5k\]: of course he never reads
]
;B[of]BL[60]OB[3]C[barasan [12k\]: If black ignore, Where white move?
Redgold [7k\]: ;D  ahi I was right.  Clap*clap*clap for me
]
;W[me]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[ep]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[do]WL[60]OW[2]C[BadMove [-\]: i read books
]
;B[ld]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[nf]WL[60]OW[2]C[barasan [12k\]: T5?
]
;B[lc]BL[60]OB[3]C[litro [4d\]: k19
]
;W[lb]WL[60]OW[2]C[litro [4d\]: (
Pampero [5k\]: redgold is getting close to pro level
Redgold [7k\]: poo
zflyhorse [1k\]: 19b  big
]
;B[da]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[ba]WL[60]OW[2]C[itsmygo [11k\]: k19 looks great..
]
;B[ph]BL[60]OB[2]C[qQQp [-\]: looks greater without a stone ;-)
Redgold [7k\]: :(  Q12 probably...... for b... but I would resign
Mo [-\]: k19 nothing
Hikky [3k\]: yeah, K19 does nothing; white has a liberty at G15
zflyhorse [1k\]: 19f
]
;W[qe]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[re]BL[60]OB[2]C[itsmygo [11k\]: yes. i see.. thanks
]
;W[og]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[pg]BL[60]OB[2]C[barasan [12k\]: N12?
ShenTe [4k\]: o16 for b
]
;W[ef]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[ee]BL[60]OB[2]C[Redgold [7k\]: G13 looks bigger for W.  :) compare to n12
]
;W[md]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[ps]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[qs]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[os]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ia]WL[60]OW[2]C[zflyhorse [1k\]: W+  5
]
;B[ga]BL[60]OB[2]C[Hikky [3k\]: I am counting W+3.5
qQQp [-\]: w+6 aprox
]
;W[mh]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[gg]BL[60]OB[2]C[jtscarry [4k\]: ach, shane played c19 before b19?
]
;W[gh]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[gf]BL[60]OB[2]C[Mo [-\]: -20,5 komi
]
;W[ic]WL[60]OW[2]C[qQQp [-\]: komi included
sagaciter [7k\]: i had a game once with a non raanked player and he calculated to win by0.( pts..how is that posible?
]
;B[ie]BL[60]OB[2]C[sagaciter [7k\]: 0.5
]
;W[le]WL[60]OW[2]C[qQQp [-\]: 5.5
Redgold [7k\]: they are fake non-ranked players
Hikky [3k\]: because generally one player gets a komi with .5 points
Hikky [3k\]: for example this game, black has a komi of 20.5 points
]
;B[kf]BL[60]OB[2]C[sagaciter [7k\]: i now he was realy good but i just wonder how can someone calculate to win by0.5
]
;W[ra]WL[60]OW[2]
;B[]BL[60]OB[2]C[Corvin [3k\]: ting ting
st21 [-\]: tick tock
jtscarry [4k\]: you get .5 as white
]
;W[]WL[60]OW[2]TW[aa][ja][ka][la][ma][ab][jb][kb][nb][ac][bc][ad][bd][nd][ae][be][ne][af][bf][ag][bg][cg][ah][bh][ch][dh][eh][fh][nh][ai][bi][ci][di][ei][fi][gi][hi][ni][aj][bj][cj][dj][ej][fj][gj][hj][ij][jj][mj][ak][bk][ck][ek][fk][gk][hk][ik][jk][kk][lk][mk][nk][al][cl][dl][el][fl][gl][hl][il][jl][kl][ll][ml][nl][bm][cm][dm][em][fm][gm][hm][im][jm][km][lm][mm][nm][dn][en][fn][gn][ln][mn][nn][on][no][oo][rs][ss]TB[fa][eb][fb][ed][rd][sd][qe][se][if][jf][qf][rf][sf][kg][rg][sg][qh][rh][sh][qi][ri][si][qj][rj][sj][sk][sl][rm][sm][rn][ro][so][ap][bp][jp][kp][rp][aq][cq][fq][gq][hq][iq][jq][lq][ar][br][cr][dr][er][fr][gr][hr][ir][jr][kr][lr][mr][nr][as][bs][cs][ds][es][fs][gs][hs][is][js][ks][ls][ms][ns]C[breakfast [3p\]: thx
smonds3 [1d\]: thanks. played too passive because large komi... 
breakfast [3p\]: won it in yose
breakfast [3p\]: yes ....
breakfast [3p\]: W got tpp many points in the center
breakfast [3p\]: you did well in fuseki!
breakfast [3p\]: I thought, I cannot win this game
smonds3 [1d\]: mv 34
])
(;B[li]C[breakfast [3p\]: and here too
]))
(;B[jn]C[smonds3 [1d\]: yes.
breakfast [3p\]: have to push
breakfast [3p\]: can reduce a lot
]))
(;B[eg]
;W[ef]
;B[ff]
;W[eh]
;B[dg]
;W[df]
;B[gg]
;W[fh]C[smonds3 [1d\]: i though about this
]
;B[gh]C[breakfast [3p\]: a bit faster?
])
(;B[ci]C[breakfast [3p\]: or even this
breakfast [3p\]: may try it
smonds3 [1d\]: ok
Darius00 [3d\]: yea looks cool
smonds3 [1d\]: our last game was so fighting
smonds3 [1d\]: i played very territory and no fights ;)
breakfast [3p\]: yes
breakfast [3p\]: I noticed
]))
(;B[mb]C[breakfast [3p\]: push one more time?
smonds3 [1d\]: i thought maybe gote this was
breakfast [3p\]: sente too
breakfast [3p\]: hard to ignore ...
]))
(;B[]BL[1795.904]C[smonds3 [1d\]: oops
smonds3 [1d\]: accedentally pressed pass
]))
