(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[-20.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[solaris]PB[smonds3]BR[1d]DT[2011-11-22]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[solaris [-\]: : Have a good game
smonds3 [1d\]: You too
smonds3 [1d\]: enjoy!
]RE[W+8.50]
;B[qd]BL[1783.987]
;W[dp]WL[1794.572]
;B[cd]BL[1751.103]
;W[pp]WL[1791.36]
;B[oc]BL[1691.973]
;W[ed]WL[1776.552]
;B[ec]BL[1645.156]
;W[fc]WL[1773.659]
;B[dc]BL[1639.838]
;W[fd]WL[1771.241]
;B[cf]BL[1612.539]
;W[jc]WL[1757.444]
;B[jq]BL[1551.361]
;W[qj]WL[1747.164]
;B[nq]BL[1536.405]
;W[qf]WL[1740.542]
;B[lc]BL[1526.625]
;W[np]WL[1733.161]
;B[mp]BL[1517.814]
;W[oq]WL[1729.116]
;B[no]BL[1363.23]
;W[op]WL[1725.363]
;B[mq]BL[1360.554]
;W[pn]WL[1716.446]
;B[fq]BL[1336.15]
;W[fp]WL[1708.345]
;B[gp]BL[1332.159]
;W[eq]WL[1705.912]
(;B[gq]BL[1325.264]
;W[fo]WL[1697.878]
;B[cq]BL[1320.031]
;W[fr]WL[1693.735]
;B[dr]BL[1314.399]
;W[er]WL[1689.134]
;B[bo]BL[1311.327]
;W[cn]WL[1679.782]
;B[co]BL[1296.069]
;W[do]WL[1673.607]
;B[bn]BL[1293.684]
;W[cm]WL[1661.823]
;B[mm]BL[1123.969]
;W[bm]WL[1655.769]
;B[br]BL[1102.919]
;W[ch]WL[1632.946]
;B[qh]BL[1083.877]
;W[pe]WL[1619.212]
;B[ql]BL[1073.882]
;W[pk]WL[1585.199]
;B[pl]BL[1006.175]
;W[ol]WL[1572.943]
;B[rj]BL[1000.597]
;W[ri]WL[1548.712]
;B[rk]BL[995.452]
;W[qi]WL[1546.392]
;B[rh]BL[988.93]
;W[si]WL[1541.858]
;B[rn]BL[982.209]
;W[rp]WL[1536.17]
;B[rm]BL[813.059]
;W[pc]WL[1503.92]
;B[pd]BL[802.917]
;W[od]WL[1502.23]
;B[pb]BL[738.151]
;W[nc]WL[1495.283]
;B[ob]BL[734.841]
;W[nd]WL[1474.392]
;B[nb]BL[730.509]
;W[ld]WL[1453.819]
;B[mc]BL[707.007]
;W[md]WL[1451.287]
;B[om]BL[674.189]
;W[nl]WL[1444.96]
(;B[jf]BL[572.226]LB[jf:A]C[solaris [-\]: is too deep
smonds3 [1d\]: oh yeah?
solaris [-\]: looks like
solaris [-\]: u come to close to w thickness
solaris [-\]: w attack
solaris [-\]: and b cna't profit 
solaris [-\]: and w will make points from attack
smonds3 [1d\]: right only reduce and it is difficult
solaris [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: from here b only play to connect
smonds3 [1d\]: i see
solaris [-\]: not to make points, or anything else
smonds3 [1d\]: i thought 6th line was light enough and not too deep
smonds3 [1d\]: but now seems clear
solaris [-\]: here u stop , in fact, to build
solaris [-\]: if we look at end
solaris [-\]: same area here u made in end
smonds3 [1d\]: also, N7 felt slow, is this true?
solaris [-\]: nothing more
smonds3 [1d\]: right
solaris [-\]: no, n7 is ok
smonds3 [1d\]: no new territory from this move on
solaris [-\]: n7 nice move
solaris [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: is like from here on
solaris [-\]: u play neutral points:)
smonds3 [1d\]: i see
solaris [-\]: becasue this weakness
smonds3 [1d\]: and whitte got the points in upper left
smonds3 [1d\]: and left side
solaris [-\]: A weakness
smonds3 [1d\]: yes. this is problem move
solaris [-\]: yeah
solaris [-\]: allright:)
solaris [-\]: next time:)
smonds3 [1d\]: do you mind showing me what could have been done in the two attach/atari joseki
smonds3 [1d\]: differently?
solaris [-\]: as u did is ok
solaris [-\]: joseki
]
;W[kc]WL[1429.291]
;B[hm]BL[543.515]
;W[hn]WL[1426.387]
;B[in]BL[540.413]
;W[ho]WL[1406.04]
;B[jm]BL[535.669]
;W[gm]WL[1402.112]
;B[hl]BL[511.142]
;W[iq]WL[1313.063]
;B[jp]BL[393.407]
;W[ir]WL[1305.589]
;B[or]BL[336.708]
;W[pr]WL[1301.744]
;B[nr]BL[335.282]
;W[nm]WL[1300.403]
;B[qk]BL[299.424]
;W[oj]WL[1297.74]
;B[nn]BL[245.149]
;W[pm]WL[1294.086]
;B[sl]BL[166.017]
;W[ml]WL[1281.356]
;B[lm]BL[161.997]
;W[ih]WL[1271.942]
;B[hf]BL[91.228]
;W[de]WL[1268.894]
;B[df]BL[12.891]
;W[ef]WL[1251.495]
;B[jh]BL[0.651]
;W[ce]WL[1245.621]
;B[be]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bd]WL[1242.449]
;B[bc]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[bf]WL[1237.822]
;B[ad]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[dg]WL[1233.492]
;B[ii]BL[60]OB[5]
;W[hh]WL[1231.198]
;B[ki]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[hi]WL[1202.45]
;B[gl]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[fm]WL[1199.818]
;B[fk]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ij]WL[1195.338]
;B[ji]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gj]WL[1183.794]
;B[ke]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[kb]WL[1178.547]
;B[oh]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[nh]WL[1174.855]
;B[qe]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[rf]WL[1160.657]
;B[ng]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[pg]WL[1153.564]
;B[ph]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[mh]WL[1137.052]
;B[oe]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[pf]WL[1134.657]
;B[mg]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[og]WL[1129.621]
;B[lh]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[mj]WL[1088.989]
;B[kk]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[dk]WL[1075.937]
;B[qq]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[qr]WL[1053.073]
;B[am]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[al]WL[1049.972]
;B[an]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[bk]WL[1047.886]
;B[af]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[bg]WL[1045.958]
;B[ej]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ig]WL[1026.858]
;B[if]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gg]WL[1013.224]
;B[mb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[lg]WL[1002.889]
;B[lf]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[nf]WL[959.653]
;B[mf]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[rd]WL[941.04]
;B[rc]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[re]WL[939.175]
;B[qc]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[sc]WL[937.573]
;B[sb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[sd]WL[926.739]
;B[kd]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ne]WL[920.832]
;B[hc]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[hd]WL[918.676]
;B[id]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ic]WL[915.685]
;B[hb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gc]WL[890.606]
;B[he]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gd]WL[866.216]
;B[fb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gb]WL[860.436]
;B[eb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ib]WL[851.453]
;B[qo]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[qp]WL[839.477]
;B[ip]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[hp]WL[818.338]
;B[jr]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[gr]WL[805.167]
;B[dd]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[cg]WL[799.625]
;B[rb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jd]WL[764.118]
;B[mi]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ni]WL[736.609]
;B[li]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[on]WL[733.085]
;B[ro]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[so]WL[728.326]
;B[sn]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[sp]WL[725.739]
;B[dj]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[cj]WL[723.41]
;B[ik]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[jj]WL[704.911]
;B[jk]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[di]WL[683.559]
;B[ek]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[el]WL[678.422]
;B[fl]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[dl]WL[673.278]
;B[gf]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ei]WL[662.997]
;B[fg]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ff]WL[650.266]
;B[kj]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[hj]WL[640.703]
;B[is]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[hs]WL[637.039]
;B[js]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ds]WL[635.335]
;B[cr]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ll]WL[618.522]
;B[kl]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[io]WL[616.174]
;B[jo]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ag]WL[606.834]
;B[ae]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[fj]WL[595.788]
;B[jg]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[hg]WL[585.45]
;B[cs]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[cp]WL[582.305]
;B[bp]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[es]WL[581.131]
;B[ie]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ge]WL[577.638]
;B[la]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[fa]WL[574.238]
;B[ea]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ga]WL[572.746]
;B[sj]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[lk]WL[561.905]
;B[ps]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[qs]WL[560.232]
;B[os]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ka]WL[552.915]
;B[lb]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[le]WL[548.689]
;B[je]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[of]WL[544.453]
;B[]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[me]WL[540.216]
;B[kg]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[]WL[540.215]
;B[]BL[60]OB[1]TW[ha][ia][ja][hb][jb][hc][ee][fe][oe][se][cf][df][sf][eg][fg][qg][rg][sg][ah][bh][dh][eh][fh][gh][oh][ph][qh][rh][sh][ai][bi][ci][fi][gi][oi][pi][aj][bj][nj][pj][ak][ck][mk][nk][ok][bl][cl][dm][em][om][dn][en][fn][gn][eo][go][ep][gp][fq][gq][hq][pq][qq][rq][sq][hr][rr][sr][fs][gs][rs][ss]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][db][qb][ac][cc][pc][bd][kf][lg][kh][sk][il][jl][rl][im][km][sm][jn][kn][ln][mn][ao][ko][lo][mo][ap][kp][lp][aq][bq][kq][lq][ar][kr][lr][mr][as][bs][ks][ls][ms][ns]C[smonds3 [1d\]: thanks
solaris [-\]: Thank you
smonds3 [1d\]: messed up in the upper left
smonds3 [1d\]: a ton
])
(;B[lk]C[smonds3 [1d\]: how is the game up to here for b?
solaris [-\]: have to go more connected
smonds3 [1d\]: was the opening okay?
solaris [-\]: more or less ok
smonds3 [1d\]: this also looks bad aji i though with N8
]
(;W[ml]
;B[ll]
;W[lm]
;B[km]
;W[ln]
;B[kn]TR[ji][lk][mm]C[solaris [-\]: b is ok
smonds3 [1d\]: yes
solaris [-\]: this is mall
solaris [-\]: small
solaris [-\]: center big
smonds3 [1d\]: yes
])
(;W[li]
(;B[ji])
(;B[ef]C[solaris [-\]: or
]
;W[gf]
;B[jj]
;W[jh]
;B[kc]C[smonds3 [1d\]: i felt like i made some mistakes with choices on the two attach/atari joseki. 
]
;W[kd]
;B[jb]
;W[ib]
;B[kb]
;W[ic]
;B[hi]
;W[hg]C[smonds3 [1d\]: yes. E14 was big
solaris [-\]: smaller now
]
(;B[hn]TR[jm])
(;B[rf]C[solaris [-\]: how is this?
smonds3 [1d\]: must better
smonds3 [1d\]: ;)
solaris [-\]: w can't cut
]
;W[qg]
;B[rg]
;W[qe]
;B[re]
;W[ph]
;B[mj]
;W[mi]TR[lg]C[solaris [-\]: not so impressive
solaris [-\]: but in game
])))))
(;B[fo]C[smonds3 [1d\]: okay. b looked over concentrated
solaris [-\]: should atari too
solaris [-\]: as before
]
;W[ep]LB[go:A]C[solaris [-\]: maybe connect up?
]
;B[go]C[smonds3 [1d\]: ok
]
;W[gq]
(;B[fr]
;W[hq]LB[jq:A]
;B[iq]
;W[hp]
;B[ho]
;W[ip]
;B[jo]
;W[gr]
;B[io]SQ[qh][pm][dn]C[solaris [-\]: very big thickness
])
(;B[hq]
;W[fr]
;B[dn]C[solaris [-\]: or simple
smonds3 [1d\]: i played on the bottom with K3 because seemed to reduce there, but maybe right was bigger?
smonds3 [1d\]: i see
solaris [-\]: k3 is good
smonds3 [1d\]: i need more thickness early, because i do okay making territory
smonds3 [1d\]: but i don't build enough thickness
smonds3 [1d\]: and i get in situations like this one
smonds3 [1d\]: where i played in center with no support
solaris [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: have to keep balance
solaris [-\]: points and thickness
smonds3 [1d\]: yes, cash and investments
smonds3 [1d\]: ;)
solaris [-\]: right:)
smonds3 [1d\]: okay. thanks again!
solaris [-\]: ok :)
solaris [-\]: thank you too
solaris [-\]: see you
smonds3 [1d\]: bye
])))
