(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[600]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[supertjc]PB[minismurf]WR[8d]DT[2010-06-27]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[supertjc [8d\]: hi
supertjc [8d\]: have a nice game
minismurf [-\]: you too
]RE[W+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[587.425]
;W[dp]WL[597.124]
;B[qp]BL[578.327]
;W[dc]WL[590.918]
;B[kq]BL[572.956]
;W[qj]WL[577.641]
;B[fq]BL[564.52]
;W[cn]WL[573.724]
;B[qk]BL[560.98]
;W[pk]WL[570.262]
;B[ql]BL[558.686]
;W[pj]WL[566.381]
;B[pl]BL[555.102]
;W[qf]WL[564.506]
;B[ok]BL[535.386]C[supertjc [8d\]: then when u get ko threats can just start ko
]
;W[ol]WL[546.627]
;B[nk]BL[514.948]
;W[om]WL[543.953]
;B[pn]BL[505.019]
;W[mm]WL[540.858]C[supertjc [8d\]: hmm
minismurf [-\]: you mean P8, right?
supertjc [8d\]: yes
minismurf [-\]: i mean, black shape becomes a bit strange too, i must find some way to attack the 3 stones
]
;B[qh]BL[454.338]
;W[ph]WL[527.89]
;B[pg]BL[451.916]
;W[qg]WL[521.095]
;B[pi]BL[449.69]
;W[rh]WL[508.688]
;B[oh]BL[441.113]
;W[qi]WL[507.304]
;B[pf]BL[410.158]C[minismurf [-\]: ok, thanks for game
minismurf [-\]: and comments
supertjc [8d\]: hmm thx for the game too
]
;W[pe]WL[463.083]
;B[oe]BL[370.284]
;W[qe]WL[450.525]C[minismurf [-\]: mmm
supertjc [8d\]: think just p16 looks good for black
]
(;B[qd]BL[330.512]
;W[od]WL[437.767]
;B[ne]BL[325.387]
;W[oc]WL[433.994]
;B[pb]BL[322.891]
;W[ob]WL[420.36]
;B[pc]BL[293.147]
;W[lc]WL[394.559]
;B[rd]BL[277.558]
;W[oj]WL[340.724]C[supertjc [8d\]: cos can control the ko
minismurf [-\]: yes, i agree it is at least ok fight so far, hard for me to say if b is better
supertjc [8d\]: well i will prefer black now
supertjc [8d\]: u can choose to l 9 and k17
]
(;B[ph]BL[190.606]
;W[rf]WL[333.524]
;B[lk]BL[172.509]C[supertjc [8d\]: dce
minismurf [-\]: dce, what's that? :)
supertjc [8d\]: oops
supertjc [8d\]: dc
minismurf [-\]: but definitely Q12 bad
supertjc [8d\]: think if white lives just now have to sacrifice r14 seeds
supertjc [8d\]: yes
supertjc [8d\]: cos it is black option
supertjc [8d\]: even if white q12 and p11 no big deal
minismurf [-\]: yes, that is reason for playing it, but black much heavier
minismurf [-\]: and invested one more stone there
]
;W[nj]WL[322.892]
;B[mj]BL[159.825]
;W[mi]WL[321.959]
(;B[mh]BL[93.14]
;W[lj]WL[243.212]
;B[mk]BL[89.903]
;W[ni]WL[242.144]
;B[lh]BL[3.689]
;W[li]WL[233.478]
;B[kk]BL[1.352]
(;W[kh]WL[208.014]
(;B[ld]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[kc]WL[185.51]
(;B[kg]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[km]WL[147.482]
;B[ik]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ji]WL[121.558]
;B[im]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[ko]WL[25.62]
;B[jn]BL[30]OB[3]
;W[kp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jq]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[io]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[jo]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[jp]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ip]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[iq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[hp]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[lq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ir]BL[30]OB[2]
;W[oq]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[no]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[oo]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[on]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[nn]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[mo]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[pm]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[qm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ln]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[qn]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[op]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[jg]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[hd]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ce]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ch]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cb]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bb]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cd]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bc]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[dd]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[bd]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[db]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cg]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[dh]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[lr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[mq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[ii]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jj]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[jk]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ij]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[hj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ih]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[hi]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[jh]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[kj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ki]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[dm]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cm]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[dk]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[de]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[df]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[ef]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cq]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[dq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[dr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cp]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[br]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bq]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[cr]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[dl]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[el]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[cl]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[dj]BL[30]OB[1]
;W[bf]WL[30]OW[4]C[minismurf [-\]: thanks
supertjc [8d\]: hmm thx
minismurf [-\]: too stressed in second half
supertjc [8d\]: starting was good for black i think
supertjc [8d\]: guess was over play from me
])
(;B[kn]C[minismurf [-\]: i considered this too
minismurf [-\]: but too heavy now i think
supertjc [8d\]: hmm posisble too
supertjc [8d\]: not easy to kill black for me
]
;W[kg]C[supertjc [8d\]: hmm
supertjc [8d\]: probably i should have l7 instead of l12
]))
(;B[kn]))
(;W[km]C[minismurf [-\]: yes, looks natural
]
;B[kh]C[minismurf [-\]: now what?
supertjc [8d\]: then k11 probably
]
;W[ji]
;B[ik]
;W[jj]C[supertjc [8d\]: k10 then h 7
]
;B[jk]
;W[im]C[minismurf [-\]: j you mean, right?
supertjc [8d\]: oops yes
supertjc [8d\]: like this hard to say
supertjc [8d\]: but black maybe better
supertjc [8d\]: cos once get sente somehow can k 17
supertjc [8d\]: quite painful for white
]
;B[gk]C[minismurf [-\]: still, jump first
supertjc [8d\]: yes
supertjc [8d\]: just play normally is ok for black
supertjc [8d\]: i may have to h10 an g7
supertjc [8d\]: and*
]
;W[hj]
;B[hk]
;W[gm]C[supertjc [8d\]: continue to apply pressure
supertjc [8d\]: then seek to j16
minismurf [-\]: yes, it is very big for sure
]
(;B[ek]
;W[id]C[supertjc [8d\]: now maybe j16
supertjc [8d\]: guess black was quite good until q12 and n12
])
(;B[jc]C[supertjc [8d\]: f 11
]
;W[fi]C[supertjc [8d\]: think left is bigger
])))
(;B[km]C[supertjc [8d\]: maybe this is better
supertjc [8d\]: perhaps n17 first?
])
(;B[mc]
;W[mb]C[supertjc [8d\]: m16
]
;B[ld]
;W[kc]
;B[km]C[minismurf [-\]: like htis?
supertjc [8d\]: looks bad for white now i think
supertjc [8d\]: not easy to live without suffering
minismurf [-\]: but black shape in upper right very bad too
supertjc [8d\]: hmm that is true
minismurf [-\]: i feel black is a little heavier, but if black can fix shape it's ok
supertjc [8d\]: i think maybe black can dun q12 first?
]))
(;B[lk]C[minismurf [-\]: this?
supertjc [8d\]: cos r12 is light
supertjc [8d\]: can prepare to start ko after attacking n7 first
minismurf [-\]: yes
minismurf [-\]: probably more interesting
supertjc [8d\]: disconnect
]
;W[km]C[minismurf [-\]: but white would respond?
]
;B[mi]
;W[np]C[supertjc [8d\]: hmm 
supertjc [8d\]: start ko?
supertjc [8d\]: q12?
minismurf [-\]: ah
]
;B[ph]C[minismurf [-\]: oh, white is dead
minismurf [-\]: ?
]))
(;B[od]C[supertjc [8d\]: but should still r16 probably
]
(;W[qd]C[supertjc [8d\]: r17 then s18?
])
(;W[rc]C[supertjc [8d\]: can just start ko
minismurf [-\]: so this is right shape?
supertjc [8d\]: probably no real right shape
minismurf [-\]: ^^
supertjc [8d\]: cos black can r16
supertjc [8d\]: then s11
supertjc [8d\]: can attack n7 in mean while
minismurf [-\]: vg comments here, i judged this shape differently
minismurf [-\]: but of course difficult to judge value of that ko
supertjc [8d\]: yes but it is definitely light for black
minismurf [-\]: i looked too much about p14 cut after ko
minismurf [-\]: but that's many moves ahead
])))
