(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[-20.50]TM[1800]OT[5x60 byo-yomi]
PW[solaris]PB[veinarde]DT[2011-05-20]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[solaris [-\]: Have a good game
veinarde [-\]: hi and gg
]RE[W+24.50]
;B[pd]BL[1789.301]
;W[dp]WL[1792.336]
;B[qp]BL[1777.07]
;W[op]WL[1790.743]
;B[oq]BL[1761.63]
;W[nq]WL[1777.43]
;B[pq]BL[1760.431]
;W[nm]WL[1773.205]C[solaris [-\]: possible to tenuki
veinarde [-\]: r7 
veinarde [-\]: in joseki
solaris [-\]: d16 is bigger i think than play
]
(;B[ce]BL[1743.529]C[solaris [-\]: but tenuki is ok
veinarde [-\]: i thought with komi corner is better
solaris [-\]: well, w r7
solaris [-\]: but b get 2 moves
]
;W[qm]WL[1762.443]
;B[nr]BL[1713.867]
;W[mq]WL[1760.567]
;B[mr]BL[1709.95]
;W[lq]WL[1754.835]
;B[cn]BL[1696.267]TR[ce][cn]C[solaris [-\]: is possible
solaris [-\]: for b
solaris [-\]: but have to take care of center
veinarde [-\]: d17 maybe better
solaris [-\]: from now on :)
veinarde [-\]: than kakari
solaris [-\]: dunno :)
veinarde [-\]: :)
]
;W[dj]WL[1728.078]
;B[cq]BL[1679.862]
;W[cp]WL[1717.122]
;B[dq]BL[1676.524]
;W[ep]WL[1715.803]
;B[bp]BL[1673.609]
;W[bo]WL[1710.054]
;B[bq]BL[1672.398]
;W[co]WL[1709.08]
;B[fq]BL[1671.419]
;W[dc]WL[1704.538]
(;B[ee]BL[1500.148]
;W[fd]WL[1700.976]
;B[ci]BL[1441.437]
;W[cj]WL[1697.509]C[solaris [-\]: this make w a bit toos trong
veinarde [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: a bit too strong*
]
;B[di]BL[1440.001]
;W[ei]WL[1695.761]
(;B[eh]BL[1435.604]
;W[fh]WL[1692.844]
;B[fi]BL[1427.087]
;W[ej]WL[1648.841]
;B[eg]BL[1422.292]
;W[gi]WL[1644.187]
;B[fg]BL[1413.409]
;W[fj]WL[1640.55]C[solaris [-\]: here w really strong
]
;B[bc]BL[1407.982]
;W[ic]WL[1638.184]
;B[fp]BL[1026.744]
;W[fo]WL[1635.168]
;B[go]BL[1024.134]
;W[fn]WL[1633.913]C[veinarde [-\]: instead of g6 
]
(;B[gn]BL[1013.125]
(;W[gp]WL[1612.466]
;B[eq]BL[1001.55]
;W[hp]WL[1606.257]
;B[fm]BL[998.67]
;W[dn]WL[1601.391]
;B[io]BL[953.046]
;W[jq]WL[1533.646]LB[il:B][dm:A]C[veinarde [-\]: tx :)
veinarde [-\]: thought there was something))
solaris [-\]: but allt his directly
]
(;B[jp]BL[938.912]C[solaris [-\]: this
solaris [-\]: why u need it?
solaris [-\]: but this way
]
;W[ip]WL[1518.159]
(;B[kp]BL[931.436]LB[kp:A]C[solaris [-\]: L4 let w
solaris [-\]: A kind of loseing move :)
veinarde [-\]: losing move
veinarde [-\]: yes)
solaris [-\]: a 'sente' move:)
solaris [-\]: before defending:)
]
(;W[ho]WL[1503.45]
;B[hn]BL[924.402]
;W[in]WL[1484.634]
;B[jo]BL[914.929]
;W[im]WL[1473.434]C[solaris [-\]: cut 
solaris [-\]: now become ok for w
]
;B[kq]BL[899.914]
;W[gm]WL[1467.034]C[solaris [-\]: center big, b need 1 more move to connect
solaris [-\]: and w sente
solaris [-\]: w good from here
]
;B[mo]BL[875.345]
;W[no]WL[1449.635]
;B[lr]BL[869.72]
;W[qf]WL[1439.323]
;B[of]BL[773.596]
;W[ph]WL[1434.422]
;B[lc]BL[747.495]
;W[qc]WL[1409.834]
;B[qd]BL[738.283]
;W[pc]WL[1399.076]
;B[oc]BL[732.52]
;W[ob]WL[1395.951]C[solaris [-\]: np :)
]
;B[nb]BL[700.734]
;W[od]WL[1389.737]
;B[nc]BL[697.733]
;W[rd]WL[1385.235]
;B[oe]BL[645.068]
;W[lm]WL[1366.371]
;B[pn]BL[626.908]
;W[qn]WL[1321.113]
;B[qo]BL[611.007]
;W[pm]WL[1316.838]
;B[mn]BL[591.385]
;W[mm]WL[1280.949]
;B[nh]BL[565.397]
;W[bb]WL[1263.184]
;B[cc]BL[524.385]
;W[cb]WL[1186.594]
;B[dd]BL[512.73]
;W[ec]WL[1184.985]
;B[bj]BL[500.832]
;W[bk]WL[1183.113]
;B[bi]BL[498.297]
;W[lh]WL[1177.424]
;B[oh]BL[265.92]
;W[pi]WL[925.386]
;B[nj]BL[245.393]
;W[lj]WL[920.497]
;B[oj]BL[184.544]
;W[pj]WL[905.178]
;B[hg]BL[161.6]
;W[ih]WL[900.913]
;B[gc]BL[46.516]
;W[gd]WL[897.862]
;B[hc]BL[44.318]
;W[id]WL[896.074]
;B[hd]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[he]WL[890.898]
;B[ie]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[je]WL[884.659]
;B[if]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[gf]WL[882.956]
;B[fc]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[hb]WL[863.525]
;B[ge]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[fe]WL[860.341]
;B[fb]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[eb]WL[858.06]
;B[hf]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ge]WL[856.12]
;B[gg]BL[60]OB[4]
;W[ed]WL[850.589]
;B[pk]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[qk]WL[842.832]
;B[ol]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[om]WL[827.691]
;B[lk]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[mk]WL[822.582]
;B[mj]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[li]WL[813.447]
;B[ml]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[kk]WL[810.465]
;B[nk]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[pb]WL[786.284]
;B[ak]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[bl]WL[784.204]
;B[pg]BL[60]OB[3]
;W[qg]WL[782.41]
;B[lf]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[kd]WL[761.512]
;B[ll]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[kl]WL[758.917]
;B[nl]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ro]WL[755.441]
;B[rp]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[sn]WL[750.292]
;B[lg]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[kg]WL[746.319]
;B[jg]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[jh]WL[743.113]
;B[kf]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[kh]WL[738.308]
;B[ir]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[hr]WL[714.558]
;B[jr]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gr]WL[711.798]
;B[fr]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[sp]WL[699.19]
;B[sq]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[so]WL[696.478]
;B[rr]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[po]WL[692.861]
;B[lp]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[np]WL[690.676]
;B[pl]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ql]WL[688.507]
;B[hh]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[hi]WL[686.915]
;B[jb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ib]WL[624.407]
;B[jc]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[jd]WL[550.882]
;B[ld]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ac]WL[503.332]
;B[ad]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ef]WL[437.35]
;B[de]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[df]WL[397.293]
;B[cf]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ab]WL[332.138]
;B[bd]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ff]WL[291.829]
;B[dg]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[na]WL[271.176]
;B[ma]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[oa]WL[249.545]
;B[lb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[pf]WL[236.21]
;B[al]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[am]WL[232.067]
;B[aj]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ao]WL[226.66]
;B[pp]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[on]WL[222.62]
;B[jn]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[jm]WL[203.001]
;B[qe]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[re]WL[195.512]
;B[pe]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[og]WL[194.03]
;B[ng]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[jf]WL[189.54]
;B[ig]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[ap]WL[172.976]
;B[aq]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[fs]WL[152.972]
;B[es]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[gs]WL[148.128]
;B[gq]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[hq]WL[146.188]
;B[iq]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[hm]WL[144.985]
;B[dr]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[kc]WL[137.751]
;B[kb]BL[60]OB[2]
;W[mh]WL[133.956]
;B[ke]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[fa]WL[124.166]
;B[mg]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[gh]WL[110.736]
;B[ch]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ja]WL[106.928]
;B[ka]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ia]WL[105.313]
;B[kn]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[ln]WL[103.265]
;B[lo]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[is]WL[99.097]
;B[nn]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[js]WL[93.706]
;B[ks]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[hs]WL[92.83]
;B[pg]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[km]WL[87.046]
;B[og]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[oo]WL[85.39]
;B[oi]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[mi]WL[83.427]
;B[]BL[60]OB[1]
;W[]WL[83.427]TW[aa][ba][ca][da][ea][ga][ha][pa][qa][ra][sa][db][fb][gb][qb][rb][sb][fc][gc][hc][rc][sc][hd][sd][se][rf][sf][rg][sg][qh][rh][sh][fi][ii][ji][ki][qi][ri][si][gj][hj][ij][jj][kj][qj][rj][sj][ck][dk][ek][fk][gk][hk][ik][jk][rk][sk][cl][dl][el][fl][gl][hl][il][jl][rl][sl][bm][cm][dm][em][fm][rm][sm][an][bn][cn][en][gn][hn][pn][rn][do][eo][go]TB[la][mb][mc][cd][md][nd][od][ae][be][le][me][ne][af][bf][mf][nf][ag][bg][cg][ah][bh][dh][ai][mk][ok][ko][jq][qq][rq][ar][br][cr][er][kr][or][pr][qr][sr][as][bs][cs][ds][ls][ms][ns][os][ps][qs][rs][ss]C[veinarde [-\]: thx
solaris [-\]: Thank you
solaris [-\]: on bottomc enter
solaris [-\]: bottom*
solaris [-\]: center
])
(;W[kq]
;B[jn]SQ[gm][im]C[solaris [-\]: even if w defend 
solaris [-\]: for b is better to don't play L4
solaris [-\]: this
solaris [-\]: here w can cut
]))
(;B[jo]C[solaris [-\]: even now
solaris [-\]: should defend
]
(;W[ho]
;B[hn]
(;W[iq])
(;W[in]
;B[iq]C[solaris [-\]: w can't cut
]
;W[hq]
;B[ir]
;W[hr]
;B[jr]
;W[kq]
;B[gr]))
(;W[ir]
;B[jl]C[solaris [-\]: and same
solaris [-\]: this is better shape and more solid
solaris [-\]: than
solaris [-\]: also here?
solaris [-\]: here too :)
solaris [-\]: ok :)
veinarde [-\]: a lot of bad shapes from me :(
veinarde [-\]: in this game
solaris [-\]: not really
solaris [-\]: just here
solaris [-\]: well
solaris [-\]: c11 also a bit odd
veinarde [-\]: and
])))
(;B[hq]BL[901.715]C[veinarde [-\]: misclick
])
(;B[jl]LB[ho:A]C[solaris [-\]: u should just run
solaris [-\]: somehow
solaris [-\]: fast
veinarde [-\]: yes 
solaris [-\]: A is your sente
solaris [-\]: so k8 is safe
solaris [-\]: u can see the position like this
])
(;B[ip]
;W[iq]
;B[ho]
;W[gr]
;B[fr]LB[dm:A]
;W[gq]LB[jl:A][dm:B]TR[gm]C[solaris [-\]: but u don't make this exchanges yet
solaris [-\]: but u can see it this way
solaris [-\]: so, from this
solaris [-\]: u can think at running 
solaris [-\]: natural
solaris [-\]: and read if cut work for w
solaris [-\]: but didn't
solaris [-\]: or first
solaris [-\]: to probe at B
]
;B[dm]C[solaris [-\]: to see how w play
veinarde [-\]: wow :)
solaris [-\]: this is better a bit thn direct run
solaris [-\]: but anyway important is to run:)
]
;W[cm]
;B[dl]
(;W[bn]
;B[jl]LB[bk:A]C[solaris [-\]: are good kikashi
solaris [-\]: can cut
])
(;W[jj]
;B[bn]C[solaris [-\]: if w tenuki
solaris [-\]: b6 is bad aji
]
;W[an]
;B[en]
;W[eo]
;B[do]))
(;B[dm])
(;B[il]C[solaris [-\]: anyway if b defend
solaris [-\]: b is ok
solaris [-\]: very solid
solaris [-\]: and have cash
solaris [-\]: many points
solaris [-\]: w have thickness but don't really work
]))
(;W[gm]C[solaris [-\]: should hane probably, usually
solaris [-\]: but i thought with this thickness
solaris [-\]: i can cut:)
veinarde [-\]: i should've defended
solaris [-\]: but not easy
]))
(;B[hp]C[solaris [-\]: yes
veinarde [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: is normal
]
;W[qf]
;B[nc]
;W[rd]
;B[qc]
;W[ph]
;B[kc]TR[gc]
;W[ie]
;B[gn]C[solaris [-\]: b ok
veinarde [-\]: but your side is big)
veinarde [-\]: too big
solaris [-\]: i think b ahead now, with komi 20 points
veinarde [-\]: maybe tenuki aftef o7 was not good idea
solaris [-\]: ok:)
solaris [-\]: thanks
]))
(;B[bj]C[solaris [-\]: here?
]
;W[bk]
;B[bi]
;W[ej]
;B[fp]C[solaris [-\]: and take sente
]))
(;B[ch]C[solaris [-\]: i expected
veinarde [-\]: c16 
veinarde [-\]: w
]
(;W[cd]
;B[de]
;W[fc]
;B[bj]C[solaris [-\]: b is ok
])
(;W[ci]
;B[dh]
;W[cd]
;B[de]
;W[fc]
;B[ej]C[solaris [-\]: still b ok
]
;W[ek]
;B[fj]
;W[dk]
;B[qf]C[solaris [-\]: b strong
solaris [-\]: r14 last big point
solaris [-\]: the bigegst side
solaris [-\]: right side
])
(;W[ed]
;B[eh]C[veinarde [-\]: looks good
solaris [-\]: yes
solaris [-\]: b ok
])))
(;B[qm]C[solaris [-\]: yes
]
;W[dd]C[solaris [-\]: is what w want
solaris [-\]: to get the big point
solaris [-\]: sure also like this b is ok
]))
