(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[Japanese]SZ[19]KM[6.50]TM[1800]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
PW[roussos]PB[Zander]WR[3k]BR[4k]DT[2010-09-26]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]C[roussos [3k\]: enjoy the game
Zander [4k\]: hi. have a nice game.
roussos [3k\]: how did that shape get so bad?
]RE[B+Resign]
;B[pd]BL[1783.278]
;W[dq]WL[1781.787]
;B[qp]BL[1747.678]
;W[dc]WL[1761.172]
;B[oq]BL[1741.017]
;W[qj]WL[1702.502]C[Zander [4k\]: after R10, yes
roussos [3k\]: I don't know
roussos [3k\]: it's theory out of Opening Theory Made Easy by Otake
roussos [3k\]: you can check out
]
(;B[do]BL[1722.909]
;W[fp]WL[1694.012]
;B[cq]BL[1720.074]C[Zander [4k\]: let W choose the side, use the tempo to play elsewhere
]
;W[cr]WL[1691.768]
;B[cp]BL[1717.598]
;W[er]WL[1689.984]
;B[ck]BL[1715.521]
;W[qm]WL[1681.6]C[Zander [4k\]: ok, I'll see if I can find that, thanks
roussos [3k\]: this now is in the direction you wanted to play
]
;B[qh]BL[1709.14]
;W[ce]WL[1673.74]
(;B[nc]BL[1687.835]
;W[jc]WL[1669.183]TR[dc][jc][ce]C[roussos [3k\]: this is ideal shape
]
;B[hc]BL[1658.808]C[roussos [3k\]: Probably this is not so good idea
roussos [3k\]: I am not in a position to explain :))
]
;W[id]WL[1661.484]C[Zander [4k\]: yes, that looks better
]
;B[gd]BL[1644.48]
;W[if]WL[1652.021]
;B[ed]BL[1613.804]
;W[ch]WL[1519.845]
;B[ef]BL[1565.288]C[roussos [3k\]: you created a weak group
roussos [3k\]: the good thing, is am not good in attacking weak groups :D
]
(;W[fb]WL[1318.005]C[Zander [4k\]: too aggressive?
roussos [3k\]: this seems to be too early
]
;B[gf]BL[1385.112]C[roussos [3k\]: good move!
]
;W[kq]WL[1238.075]
;B[cf]BL[1365.306]
;W[bf]WL[1209.99]
;B[cg]BL[1320.722]
;W[bg]WL[1202.219]
;B[de]BL[1308.832]
;W[dd]WL[1185.791]
;B[oh]BL[1255.459]
;W[qc]WL[1145.917]
;B[qd]BL[1233.432]
(;W[pc]WL[1103.887]
;B[oc]BL[1210.523]
;W[rd]WL[1085.906]
;B[re]BL[1191.48]
;W[rb]WL[1076.608]
;B[sd]BL[1186.553]
(;W[ob]WL[1012.694]
;B[nb]BL[1151.914]
;W[sc]WL[988.922]
;B[rc]BL[1140.648]
;W[dm]WL[960.181]
;B[en]BL[1118.631]
;W[rd]WL[956.986]
;B[cd]BL[1115.717]
;W[be]WL[955.242]
;B[rc]BL[1113.471]
;W[el]WL[938.388]
;B[sb]BL[1110.738]
(;W[pb]WL[903.469]C[roussos [3k\]: Q18 I played too fast
Zander [4k\]: q18 is bad
roussos [3k\]: Must be bad
]
;B[gn]BL[1055.933]
;W[cn]WL[894.848]
;B[go]BL[1014.448]C[Zander [4k\]: doesn't live
roussos [3k\]: well it does...
roussos [3k\]: after a ko threat
roussos [3k\]: or a connectin like I almost did in the end
]
;W[gp]WL[886.153]
;B[fi]BL[995.182]
;W[ej]WL[863.874]
;B[oj]BL[928.173]
;W[om]WL[854.198]
;B[dh]BL[920.908]
;W[di]WL[833.861]
;B[eh]BL[892.916]
;W[fj]WL[804.85]C[Zander [4k\]: there's still a ko I can throw in S19
]
;B[je]BL[882.306]
;W[ie]WL[800.852]
;B[hh]BL[877.954]
;W[kg]WL[757.289]
;B[lf]BL[861.039]
;W[jf]WL[737.042]
;B[lg]BL[845.018]
;W[ke]WL[732.616]
;B[kh]BL[840.548]
;W[jh]WL[705.145]
;B[ki]BL[828.847]
;W[ld]WL[684.132]
;B[md]BL[797.632]
;W[ii]WL[649.886]
;B[rn]BL[769.714]
;W[ko]WL[610.308]
;B[jp]BL[710.741]
;W[ip]WL[569.619]
;B[io]BL[701.738]
;W[ho]WL[566.943]
;B[hn]BL[699.452]
;W[hp]WL[565.251]
;B[in]BL[655.132]
;W[jo]WL[560.543]
;B[ik]BL[616.749]
;W[jj]WL[535.063]
;B[kk]BL[561.68]
;W[gi]WL[521.203]
;B[gh]BL[554.187]
;W[hi]WL[510.931]
;B[jk]BL[550.311]
;W[kj]WL[418.329]
;B[lj]BL[547.445]
;W[ji]WL[400.093]
;B[lk]BL[518.893]
;W[lh]WL[240.528]
;B[li]BL[511.445]
;W[rm]WL[176.397]
;B[gj]BL[478.273]
;W[hj]WL[134.123]
;B[gk]BL[475.923]
;W[ei]WL[97.08]
;B[fh]BL[366.69]
;W[hk]WL[92.486]
;B[gl]BL[358.872]
;W[lb]WL[17.369]
;B[le]BL[335.621]
;W[kd]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ib]BL[311.676]
(;W[na]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[ma]BL[306.502]C[roussos [3k\]: so anyway
roussos [3k\]: good game
roussos [3k\]: cu again
roussos [3k\]: gnight
Zander [4k\]: yes, thanks. later
]
;W[oa]WL[30]OW[5]
;B[mb]BL[283.594]
;W[jb]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[lc]BL[176.661]
;W[ic]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[hb]BL[168.061]
;W[kc]WL[30]OW[4]
;B[mc]BL[123.771]
;W[hd]WL[30]OW[3]
;B[fc]BL[85.192]
;W[eb]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[fe]BL[46.154]
;W[hl]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[jm]BL[5]
;W[qa]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[mh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ri]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[rh]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[qn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ro]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[mo]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[hm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ep]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[eo]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pi]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ph]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[oi]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ni]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pj]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ok]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pl]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[mq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[pp]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[pq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[qo]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[rq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[mp]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[lq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[kp]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[kr]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[jr]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[lr]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[sh]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[sg]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[si]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ig]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[br]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[bo]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[bn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[co]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ao]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ap]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[an]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[em]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[dl]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[nl]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[rg]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[sf]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[nm]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[mm]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[op]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[js]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[is]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ks]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ir]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[nq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[aq]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[bq]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ar]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[bp]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[gb]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[gc]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ra]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[la]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ha]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ia]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ga]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ja]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[ec]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[fk]BL[30]OB[5]
;W[fl]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ek]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[dk]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[gm]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ci]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[ln]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[mn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[lm]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[ol]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[pk]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[qk]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[nk]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[kn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[km]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[sn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[so]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[sm]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[qi]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[rj]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[np]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[no]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[jn]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[dn]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[fo]BL[30]OB[4]
;W[fm]WL[30]OW[2]
;B[sc]BL[30]OB[4]C[roussos [3k\]: disaster :)
Zander [4k\]: thanks
roussos [3k\]: thanks for the game
])
(;W[jb]C[roussos [3k\]: after this, you had to kill it
]
(;B[lc]
;W[mb]
;B[mc]
;W[na])
(;B[ma]
;W[lc]
;B[ka]
;W[kb]C[roussos [3k\]: my group was too weak
])))
(;W[gn])
(;W[cn]
;B[gn]
(;W[in])
(;W[ko])))
(;W[sc]C[roussos [3k\]: i have no clue
Zander [4k\]: yeah, probably better for you to start the ko earlier
]))
(;W[rd]
;B[re]
;W[rb]
;B[sd]
;W[sc]
;B[rc]))
(;W[gf]C[roussos [3k\]: perhaps something like this
]))
(;B[jc]C[roussos [3k\]: so possibly this?
roussos [3k\]: you can ask a strong player
]))
(;B[ql]LB[qp:2][oq:1]TR[ql]C[roussos [3k\]: this is usual answer
roussos [3k\]: they face in direction of marked stone
roussos [3k\]: ideal
]
(;W[qg]
;B[de]C[Zander [4k\]: Sensei's Library says normal is tenuki, I think.
roussos [3k\]: for which move? R10?
])
(;W[qf]
;B[nc])))
